Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 2020 Ep 32 20240713 : comp

Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 2020 Ep 32 20240713

Virus cambodia faces up to the prospect of job losses. Begins its talks to avoid debt default. On aljazeera. And youre in the stream today as the United Nations sound the alarm for civilians in syria we ask is the world indifferent to. Join the conversation twitter. Stream or leave a comment on our live chat and you too can be in the story of. The United Nations warns that the world is facing the worst humanitarian catastrophe of the 21st century as the forces of syrian president Bashar Al Assad close in on the last opposition stronghold and the that announcement by the un comes as Opposition Forces backed by the Turkish Military regained the key town of soraya on thursday as hashim reports its the 1st significant reversal for the syrian army. And this is just a bit i leave on the streets. For the rebel commander this is just the beginning of a long push to recapture lost territory. Of this rocket is back on that old control we have managed to evict Syrian Army Russian all i am progovernment militias from so i want to reassure our people that we will liberate all the cities of syria and if you did that the thought. But for the rebels to hold ground may be challenging the city is located on 2 highways in for an empire which linked damascus to a northeastern syria. So in Government Troops and russian fighter jets are striking rebel positions preventing them from reinforcing their lines of defense. A moment of triumph for the rebels this is the 1st significant military gain in months oh i wanted to get the opposition has lost many strongholds and retreated north allowing the syrian army to advance to was it live city and as Government Troops close in thousands of civilians flee the offensive has displaced almost 1000000 people and created the worst humanitarian situation since the start of the conflict in syria 9 years ago. The Syrian Civil War has been called the worst manmade disaster since world war 2 save it live and live under fire these are some of the hashtags that syrians are rallying around after the governments military campaign to take the oppositions last stronghold but attack on in the has prompted the largest exodus of the war nearly a 1000000 people have fled the city but are trapped at the Turkish Border which remains close to refugees a member of our community when maloof tweets situation it live is fast becoming one of the worst chapters yet of the syrian war meanwhile humanitarian organizations are calling on all parties to respect the rules of war but critics are worried about what happens if the office of doesnt stop on twitter results of 4 echoes what a lot of people are saying desperate intervention is needed heres what another member of our Online Community has to say about the children of the children i really care how many are on the roof. But there is no everything were actually doing and its very important for bennett markers to be able to reach out to everybody and. Only i really must. Meet here at school. By going to you meet. Me chimes. About if you can. Joining us to discuss this it had tied turkey is husham barra is a Senior Correspondent for aljazeera english in london jasmine elgamal of shes a senior fellow with the lancet council and a former syria advisor with the u. S. Department of defense in amman jordan maze know what is the is an advisor with world visions syria Crisis Response and in Chicago Illinois dr is the heres a little hes the president a med global and has volunteered for multiple medical missions to syria welcome everyone hashem i want to begin with you Al Jazeera English is currently reporting that there is a counter offensive coming from the Syrian Government forces and can you update us on whats happening there. Basically josh what is happening as we speak is that the syrian army backed by russia. Are trying both to undermine the gains made by the bubbles particular instead are pounding their defense lines they dont want the rebels to set up their defense lines in the city and they dont want them to hold ground and get entrenched in their city this is quite a strategic moment. A crucial moment for all the parties but for the opposition by taken over. Which says its on the intersection of both highways and 4. 00 and 5. 00 they will cut off supplies for the military for the syrian army the syrian army wont be able to send troops fighters convoys aid logistics from damascus all the way to to the area or to because of the new gaze by the opposition and both parties are willing to hold the ground and continue making further games in the near future the rebels told us that they are determined to move south and take over another crucial area cause matter to them and so were talking about intensified fighting airstrikes shelling by Government Troops and russians but at the same time a determined push by the bubbles to reverse gains made by the government over the last few months considering the russians own the airspace is there much hope for the rebels be able to hold that ground. 0 chances in the near future unless the key steps up its offensive sends more fighters into more soldiers into the area now there are troops crucial talks underway between turkey and russia and turkey has been insisting it was russia to give it access to the space in the western city and particularly over the skies of libya if that happens the turks hoping to be able to prevent the syrian army from pounding or using fighter jets to strike to strike rebels position one of the biggest concerns also here is that the government has been intentionally according to all of us to this particular by the United Nations targeting civilian areas paving the way for this unprecedented wave of the spacemans of civilians is seriously as 2011 or so looking for what the turks are going to do president carter one just recently had these comments about syria in the developments on the ground in favor but on the other hand the regimes losses all very big 3 of our soldiers have been killed let them rest in peace but there is no time to deal with this no negotiations with the russians will continue however we are operating in it live with the a done a agreement along with the 911 kilometer border we are safeguarding our country we will continue to operate in syria backing Syrian Rebels until we win the war for jasmine all eyes are on the turks in this to see what theyre going to do i believe they gave a deadline to the russians in this area so the end up everywhere which is about 48 hours from now can the turks stop the ban smith from the Syrian Government forces and the russians if you want to side he wants to. Hard to say at this point honestly because the turks are at a bit of a tough position erred on is under incredible pressure domestically to prove that he can and will stand up to the syrians and stand up to the russians and the church hes objective and live has always been clear which is to prevent and not as if the refugees more refugees going into turkey from syria and for that reason been incredibly stringent in his Public Comments and his actions on the ground to try to stop that from happening now youre right he said that as the deadline approaches if the assad regime does not stop at the fence and lead the turks will take actions its hard to its hard to see what kind of action that looks like though given that the turks also are playing a very delicate balance balancing act with the russians here the turks have certainly no desire to go head to head with the russians in any sort of. Manner that would provoke a larger confrontation between the turks and the russians but at the same time they have to show that theyre willing and able at least willing to to do something to stop the syrian offensive so its its. Fairly obvious that turkey will try to stop the offensive they will probably. Do more of what theyve been doing so far going into syria and showing and proving to their domestic audience that theyre going to do something about it whether or not theyll succeed though and how far theyre willing to go is unclear but just what is the turkish escalation mean in terms of its nato allies turkey is a full member of nato right if they get involved is because they dont have their backs. Well thats a really good question and its one of the biggest frustrations the president early on has voiced over the last few months is how he feels that hes being abandoned by nato turkey as a member of nato and they see themselves as having borne the brunt of the syria conflict really when it comes to refugees when it comes to the instability on the border hes constantly asking the europeans to give him more money to help set up a safe zone so that he could send some of the 3000000 refugees in turkey dock across the border and he constantly complaining that hes not getting enough support from nato so youll remember that very recently secretary pompei oh and President Trump both stated it was right after turkish soldiers were killed by Syrian Armed Forces in syria both President Trump and secretary pompei ok mouth and stated very clearly and very publicly that they stand with turkey as a nato ally it was a big boost symbolically for the turks but again what it means on the ground in real life if something were to happen to the turks would be International Community would nato member step in its again im clear i hate to keep using the word unclear but its just really theres a lot of tension between what these actors are saying publicly and what theyre willing to do when push comes to shove especially nato members who have said time and time again that they dont want to get involved and yet another conflict in the middle east so a lot remains to be seen when you brought a pump a load there it seems to me that the u. S. Is not really a player in this at this moment and nato is trying to not be a player this is kind of a new era in International Affairs of ive heard it called west list move as it would like the west doesnt seem to have much influence with is that what were seeing here. Absolutely and you know i think its really tragic what were seeing and. You know its all well and good to come up with a catch phrase for it but what it means for people on the ground is really its really heartbreaking to see what this sort of abdication of any sort of responsibility on the part of the west has meant for people on the ground in syria and i know that some of my co panelists are going to speak about what theyve seen on the ground and the bottom line is you have a u. S. President a french president you know mostly western leaders who are dealing with domestic audiences who are tired of what western intervention in the middle east who just you know look at the situation and is live just as one example of a situation of pure hopelessness and theyre kind of saying well what can we do about it we dont want to get involved in this kind of hopeless job but hopeless and so youre really seeing youre really seeing a very shameful abdication on the part of the west when it comes to islam but i can tell you as someone who worked at the department of defense the way that the u. S. Department of defense of looking at this the way that the u. S. Government is looking out of this and the u. S. National security adviser actually articulated this a few days ago its this idea its this kind of like did question of well what can we do you know what is that that we actually can do to stop this from happening a lot of people have criticized for example democratic president ial candidates for saying theres no military solution to the crisis and so on but this is actually how the u. S. Sees the conflict i dont believe that whether Democratic Candidates or the current us president when theyre lying that theyre lying when they say that they genuinely dont see what they can do to stop this they see further escalation if they start bombing for example assads helicopters they see potential escalation with russia if they support turkey they see. Same thing they see themselves getting mired in so another conflict and they see themselves actually being helped with the south now whether or not the agree was that as one as one issue but thats just how how they see it i want to get whats at stake here and you alluded to it there in the middle of your answer and its those millions of people that are trapped between these military i want to go to someone who said its a matter of our committee who sent in a video comment hes an Orthopedic Surgeon and this name is omar al from iraq dr omer i hope rocket lets roll this unfortunately it is now with the heart of the atrocities by the assad regime russia and. Any militias on the ground. Everybody. Is wondering why the International Community is. Blind and used to the daily and endless atrocities by the assad regime against civilians there are no safe spaces safe spaces here you know that the lives all 3500000 civilians take yeah i want to go to you what is daily life like on the ground right now in a live city and a little province. Its tragic its the worst situation that weve seen and 9 years as already mentioned over 1000000 has been displaced over 10 times imagine leaving everything over 10 times. Out of this 1000000. 00 its 600. 00 children and they have nothing absolutely no access to any Health Center misses to send it takes an order to anywhere close as well as i would if you had thousands unfortunately have reports of children facing to death yesterday 10 children were deported died when the schools that attacked again its very sad and its the worst that weve seen over the 9 years of war and c again its their responsibility of the International Community to step up a foot an immediate long lasting cease fire this is what we need now and again its very challenging to access these folks relation despite of all of the 1st by the International Community within this small area its not enough we need more supports that and we need to voice the concerns of the children and their families. Because they feel desperate they have nothing basically and they feel abandoned all the time they did their needs are growing and it only growing. I would contain as theyre trying but theyve been displaced themselves and theyve been trying to support as much as they can at the same time to take care of their loved ones but again its not good enough. And its such a tragic result weve got to come to a full stop right there. Were talking 600000 children theyre sleeping not even in tents and theyre freezing to death i read about a school yesterday that as the kids were leaving was bombed with cluster bombs i think thats why when your talk about you saw the 10 kids dead i mean the world has got to stop and notice that. This isnt just your every other day war its syria like something is happening here that the world needs to sit up and recognize i want to go to another video comment from one of our viewers shes in a tent outside check this out we managed to hitch a ride to get to how is of waiting and asking people on the right since my husband died 8 months ago weve been forced to me its depressing to think that ill give but here it would be better if i had my own tent. Doctors of the wall im sure her story is not unusual i know that youve been there on a number of medical missions and we just tell us the story of the little girl you met and the drawings. I was an ad lib last month right after this accident and were talking about 100000 people have of them are children who are displaced. 15 percent of them according to the e. U. And have no shelter or even every building every school ive visited was converted to temporary shelters you have 1250 camps in the province of idlib some of them have 50 tents some of them have 510. 00 so and one of these camps we went and spent the night it was very cold it was raining we had to wear special boots for the mud was very muddy and the children were drawing actually out of the mud these beautiful picture that represents their lives children by the way are very resilient syrian children like any other children are very resilient they want to go to school they want to laugh they want to tell stories i asked them how many of you would like to be doctors in the future and 2 thirds of them raise their hand some of them wanted to be teachers some of them wanted to be architects even a couple of them wanted to be a president. And i asked one of them her name was. Should be 12 years old she isnt from the village of your being north of hama she was displaced with her family 7 times until she ended up in that camp and she was rolling thats beautiful picture that you seen i asked her what do you dream she said i want to be a doctor but every day i have to walk for 2 hours to the school and its very muddy i wish that there is less cold and less mud so i can walk to the school so this is how children think you know we may think that they are only going through suffering but actually they are thinking of their future and the children as 1500000 children 3000000 civilians can be a source of healing and reconstruction and rebuilding of the whole region if we focus on them this is just absolutely unacceptable that hundreds of thousands of children are living like this. In the winter jasmine what is the International Community whats whats the responsibility here as i see this it seems like a bell year the nation states it seems like a failure of the International Community the everyone has failed these people and why. You know i dont think any of us can answer that question because its just so impossible to look at the situation right now and and fathom how no one could be doing anything its a complete failure on the part of the International Community the you know the u. S. Is getting a lot of criticism but

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