Transcripts For ALJAZ In Search Of Indias Soul Ep 2 202407

Transcripts For ALJAZ In Search Of Indias Soul Ep 2 20240713

Its been pretty clear that theyve been making some very Good Progress whats happened since then is that the afghan prison ashraf ghani has been informed about this by phone hes now come here to munich for a much more detailed meeting of whats going to happen next and the afghan president was briefed here by the u. S. Secretary of state mike pompei o y mark kasper the us secretary of defense what we understand is that at some point very soon theyll start a period of 7 days a reduction of violence now thats not a cease fire theyre not using the cease fire word and certainly Afghan Government had wanted it to be a cease fire after that though after that 7 days then were told within another 10 days or so talks should start then between the taliban and all of the rest of the afghan political system the Afghan Government and other afghan Political Parties Afghan Government has been wary about this process all along because theyve been left out of it this has been very much a deal between the u. S. And the taliban and there are lots of Unanswered Questions we also dont know how many u. S. Troop troops are going to withdraw and when we know in the original deal that was stopped in september it was 5400 troops that were going to be withdrawn in a matter of months its worth telling you since september theyve actually gone ahead and withdrawn 2000 troops so if theyre sticking to the original plan will perhaps see 3400. 00 or so troops withdraw some time soon now chinas foreign minister has criticized some countries for overreacting to the corona virus which has now killed more than 1500 people he insists the government has it under control hazing is now imposing a 14 day a quarantine period for anyone returning to the capital as it steps up the fight against the current virus the outbreak is also taking its toll on health where more than 1700. 00 have been infected and 6 have died. Understanding is the cases among workers people in the 3rd and 4th week of january and theres been a rapid falloff in the number of cases that were occurred in and Health Workers in the last 2 weeks this may reflect increased levels of training increased levels of protection and also increased levels of awareness remember theres a break has come expanded very quickly in and unsuspecting Health System so we also need to look at how many of those home workers were exposed knowingly within a clinical environment a Syrian Government helicopter has been downed in the countrys northwest state media say all crew members were killed damascus is trying to take the last rebel held areas in an operation thats displaced 800000 people since december the Syrian Government has also attacked a camp for internally displaced people in the northern countryside of italy a province social media video shows the often mass of the shelling there were no casualties a fire has swept through an orphanage in haiti killing at least 15 children the unlicenced residents on the outskirts of the capital Port Au Prince had been using candles for light because of problems with its generator about 60 children was staying in the orphanage run by u. S. Based Christian Group now reigning english football champions Manchester City have been banned from European Competition for 2 years for breaking financial rules set by the european governing body you a fan club is accused of disguising cash injections from the average of the owners as legitimate sponsorships thats a breach of financial fair play rules Manchester City intends to appeal well those are the headlines to join me for more news here after in search of indias cell stay with us. Thank you. My name is arthur stasi or im a writer and a columnist. In this the 2nd of 2 films im traveling through india the country i grew up in. I want to see for myself the changes taking place amid a rising tide of him look for a hindu 1st politics these ideas which place hindus above people of other faiths stem from the very top leadership in this land of 1300000000 people. I started my journey in the holy city of our and i see in northern india. This is a deeply religious country in the middle of a battle for her soul and it is no surprise that it was this place at the hindu nationalist leader in the range of modi chose this election battleground republic sing its powerful symbolism in a new time. Behind this image of a religiously diverse nation india faces a new mini crisis. And minorities including 200000000. 00 muslims fear an underlying current of violence more brutality and death at the hands of hindu linus the hardliners claim injustice is against him dues for muslim rule and sentries past justifies their drive to return india to a golden age as they see it and a nation where hindus come 1st hindu is making up to get back the birthplace is off his ancestors and these films ive been asking where did these ideas come from. Following independence in 1947 which was closely intertwined with the bloody episode of partition some people had thought that the politics of division was finally a thing of the past in a newly created secular state of india all would be equal before the law but here the word secular would come to have a particularly indian meaning. Secular in india merely meant a the existence of a profusion of religions all of which were allowed and encouraged by the state to flourish. But over the past few decades a series of events occurred that threaten the very fabric of indias secular identity it set then tiny b. G. P. Political party on course to become the ruling power they are today on the 6th of december 1902 a crowd of 150000 militants supporters of the pro hindu r. S. S. Descended on the barbary mosque in the northern town of the reputed birthplace of the hindu god ram i was standing next to the mosque when this crowd started increasing the gate broke down and the huge rush of people inside beyond the control of the of it i shouted down was a Young Journalist and a key witness to the events that were to unfold. What the standard doing was breaking the barricade that was thematic getting all around and the fury that could be even that was visible they walked in within. Half an hour you saw dozens of people at the mosque. With its pro hindu agenda the r. S. S. Had long been agitating to destroy the 16th century mosque built by the mogul ruler barber and reclaimed the sacred ground for him booze for them the existence of the mosque was a long standing move when you saw this thing come down what did you see what. I thought about the the social and political back i said well there now this is a divide that theyve created in the country they are taking us back to 147 when india was divided. In the riots that followed between muslims and hindus some 2000 people were killed for Indian Muslims these events meant much more than just the loss of a defunct building. Businesses and i. Dentity it was not the mosque was not it was not the mosque that was important for the of that identity so do you feel that that the new politics had been born absolutely feel like a new politics of division of division began. This was a division that would change the face of indian politics one that pushed many among the 80 percent hindu majority to support the b j p at that time a relatively obscure political party. Truly astonishing to hear sherrod story because it makes so clear how the stage was set for this Political Drama to play out in which a defunct mosque became the vessel of religious passions. This hindu reawakening was underlined by a long running t. V. Adaptation of the hindu epic the ra milan for years record numbers of indians were grouped by the series that chronicled the life of lord rum and tapped into a deep sense of pride and nostalgia among them. Its really amazing for me to see because i grew up on the t. V. Serial its the raw mine and it was played to india in the eightys to great passion and large audiences and knowing it has a kind of an edge to it because we have large audiences again were in a stone quarry where the stones are being prepared for a future ram temple where the mosque had been demolished. For 28 years lawyers forto over the rights and wrongs of building a temple to lord ram on the site of the barbary mosque in the meantime the stones for the new temple were caught with the confidence that the situation in favor of building the long awaited temple would surely come. All this was our political tell way of i dont know much how to get by but our thoughts are well mighty monday at the door mom. American much more than monarchy at our place a value only because if we didnt even have been able to get a look when we did get a look at that. Is newsmaking the hindu is making up to get back the birthplaces of his ancestors. Any in do can go and make use temples in jerusalem no can i go room and build example of hindu temple there no can i go to maka and build a temple there no i will not be allowed. Why we are considered different when the case of your dad comes. It is the but face of arda. What were seeing is the construction of politicians and hearts and minds of millions of people across the country i think hurtling in a direction which is potentially catastrophic the. Same truth to the idea of india that the leadership of the represented was that india would be a country big dark matter which god you worship or if you were shipped no go and walk like a bitch you would be if you be an equal citizen that was elected the same true cornerstone of. The stood for many of us believe that the issue was resolved for ever but it was not the media be that have succeeded in uniting. All communities into believing that there is a common enemy which is the more the also has the backing of the largest Civil Society organization in the world. Which is which is the this which is deeply committed to the ideology of indiscipline this is. The campaign to get back the sides of the barbary mosque for the hindus had been running for years. But the act that made it possible came from a completely unexpected event one that played into a negative narrative about muslims and secularism promoted by the r. S. S. In 96 and otherwise obscure family dispute involving a muslim couple that became known as the case reached the Supreme Court in delhi. The has been claimed he divorced his wife islamic li by saying they were to lock on 3 occasions. Are if mohamed khan was a cabinet minister at the time a lot just repeated thrice and its all over and now we have goes for the Court Advocate divorce and you had not divorce her on the day you had defected to. Undermine to secular law the court refused to recognize the triple telarc islamic divorce he was ordered to pay his wife maintenance Congress Party pm and member of the narrow gandhi did misty rajiv gandhi initially supported the judgment his 1st instinct was the right one which was to back the Supreme Court decision that granted this poor old lady alimony and to encourage his cabinet minister out of moment can you spoken to to sister in parliament and to say so with some courage and laymans. The personal law board which represented muslims claim the award was against islamic law angry clerics demonstrated outside parliament. The stand of the Personnel Board was that this judgment is against islam this is interference in the slum called therefore it must be rajiv gandhi buckled under the protest of conservative clerics he went back on his decision and passed a bill that reversed the Supreme Court ruling the case would now be judged under muslim personal law in tightening the wife just 3 months maintenance seeing this is an assault on womens rights progressive muslims and many hindus were appalled company came under attack from both sides rajiv gandhi the worst mistake of his life by exceeding to these conservative elements and overturning the Supreme Court judgement and taking away her date to maintenance indian politics took a turn from that point davies and was dead the language which was the spoke threatening language outside parliament in the meeting of the parts of a low board open call was given to brag but the leads of all those m. P. s who defied me but still and if it is which was. Again and again effectively how food is Supreme Court which at that will smash the Supreme Court may just pieces yes. There was a discourse about appeasement of muslims the idea that people are going to work for muslims. Many hindus were angered at what they saw as the state caving in to muslim demands. For years the pro hindu r. S. S. Had agitated for access to the barbary mosque in new york here to placate them rajiv gandhi ordered the site to be open for him to prat. A decision that has had deadly consequences ever since. On february 27th 2002 a train was set alight just outside go dressed ation in the Western State of gujarat. 58 hindu pilgrims were burnt to death theyd been returning home from the babri mosque in new york here. There was an outcry and mobs of hindu hardliners took to the streets. Danica start up again as hard as get there. Do you ever heard of the idea or hindu or go clear. Follow her to her instead of handing the dead to their families the bodies were transported nearly 200 kilometers to the town of under about to be paraded through the streets you can tell yourself talon locals act on local be just because a lot out there are just for gases and nature in the btselem i dont get a lot out what role then. The many other how the minorities going apple told me to tell any slick ass that he got his desk in the shops and then lie. For reading 58 charred corpses through the streets was always likely to provoke further violence. Permission for the reportedly came from the then chief minister of goods or a marine 3 mo d. Himself. In the ensuing riots over a 1000 were killed 3 quarters of them muslim. In 1902 when the mosque was the morning india changed for they were. The issue of the charbonneau. Was be emotive and important. The riots in. The sequence of events. That charted the path and indeed the foundation for the ease of hindu supremacist politics and late to the emergence d of this leader in the mood. For long hours the good dr state authorities stood by as rioting took place prompting allegations of state complicity. Saying forget i was a young Police Constable his unit was kept in active as people were massacred. In the run up by p. M. S. Police or they can also has a thing public the cigar i was it was hardly a. One point hard turn into well generally that or a matter of degree but that because you get out there that. I. Dont know. But. Civil though i doubt he. Would come but. Yes in march it will just 10 years old when the attacks took place. The victims. Family. Gave me my will. I want the money. But they didnt know was that theyd want to try to. Get my data downloaded. You know im like. You know were not. Even. Sure he career she was at home with her husband and 3 small true. He couldnt finish the initials that said my heart of the modernity but the town itself ok what he said. About turning to the moon but 70 finding too late getting to tell all the what they are give. Us an angel bit intimidating but show with a fairly clear on with their what was happening tom. Advice would be needed now so were going to maybe go away. For legit complicity in allowing the mob violence and killings to go unchecked through more of the was barred from visiting the us a ban that lasted for 10 years. India is top court has ruled that a dispute should religious sites be given to hindus for the construction of a temple and do hard liners destroyed a 16th century mosque in 1992 spot hall riots that killed at least 2000 people. I find myself wondering how far do these events ive loved about on this journey represents an attempt at a historical record are we witnessing a recommitting of the secular character of most men do that set of rules on which the newly founded country was established. Can. Invent in there without taking into account tragedies of more than those how much weve tried to sanitize i dont think the people in the muslims of today should be blamed for what i have to do if i already saved them a list particularly trying. To see that it didnt happen gets peoples backs its that evil securitisation its the reaction. This thinking that i say should all by pretending that it was all a happy family all along it wasnt because of a troubled history. Of the muslim world to accept that yes we are muslims and we shall remain muslim but our ancestors have the same as yours i would say 99 percent of the problems with the muslims of meal because of the way they are portrayed is the descendants of the murders and looters and butchers and rapists the making common cause with people who broke the long temple the Krishna Temple the kashmir issue not temple 40000 other temples but its true that they are converted. I think where was born here for 2 months a backlash you might call it and the need for a strong leader combined with the need to assert what they thought was the hindu identity and by implication the best latent. People are coming back to the people are thinking to come back to their roots they are feeling that. Right the connect with with their roots and their roots does not lie in christianity on the sly. Identity is connected with. Whether i have converted to islam my true identity was before the islam we are not proud of identify oneself with baba they were they made us. The hindu for our view of the past might sound great if you happen to be a hindu but where does this leave the non hindus naseer room became acutely aware of the challenges facing her muslim daughter growing up in increasingly pro hindu surroundings shes written a book about saad says i kept waiting for my teacher to react in school the class me. I was silent i didnt respond and i just kept sitting there i didnt really know what to do. What is it like now to grow up as a muslim child in india take you through one story in your book the boys called house and they they come and call him to go to this

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