if you disobey the rules you get cut off could you please remove the flags. you know. i. had. i really lays it down resume your seat put your flags away you're leaving and take them with you if you are leaving. in this memory mcginest their vice president of the european parliament disciplining breck said party any peace on january 29th and 2 days later the u.k. officially left the european union begin a transition period until the end of the year to negotiate a new relationship the historic end to 47 years of e.u. membership was met with a range of feelings celebration mourning and a sense of anxiety for many u.k. citizens living in scotland and northern ireland places where the majority voted to remain in the new black sea has generated renewed interest in independence from the u.k. as some citizens say that london no longer represents their interests with us to talk about this any longer now does he or senior correspondent. in kabul north scotland james kelly author of the pro independence blog scott goes pop and in brussels alexander phillips a former member of european parliament the break party i had to tell you as alex was watching that video there from the european palate your smile was so wide you were enjoying every moment of that why alex what should be today how you feel about bricks in your good you know 13 years like campaign 2 it's worked for a lot of people it's a lot longer and the fact that we had a referendum and it took 3 years to actually implement the result it came as a huge relief but what was making me smile at. he was that would mind if i prickly the e.u. are this is basically the european union of member states they carved that b. idea. it's a really bizarre thing and you know we had a lot of fun in that parliament we actually put a bit of democracy i'd like to debate it but change it for the 1st start and i think they're going to miss us so you are now coming the unemployed because you are forming any pain and she with that in brussels last week what was the mood like from the europeans perspective oh they will still carry a lot of mostly the 1000000 other things since it's a worry about that and you know i think think it was a you know it's like if you're their teacher a playground and you've got some kids that are heaps in the bins on fire and there's some poor and you go well this and the rest of us without these people in 47 use the u.k. has been in the european union the complaining about everything will tell him. it's you know i think i think it in a way that quite relieved they're trying to make a virtue of. us and well look you know the last 3 years we've you know we tried to close again for the members of our meaning. and you know it's actually it is there's a bit of good riddance in there trying to be nice and single things all in. but there's a steel i think in there as well i think to some degree that will go away. i'm just looking at james at the devastation the way the alex mess was knocking down the way that you have mark in present day alex in all caps we are out yelling at out very happy and out as they were chatting down james and not looking too happy and you can work out why with everybody celebrating your mood today is what. well i haven't really changed my view since saturday i just thought it was bizarre i kept thinking back to 2004 when all of the eastern european countries celebrated coming into the e.u. and the reason they celebrate is because it brings rights it brings an individual rights it brings european status and set up the right to live and work in any other european countries study brings economic prosperity and so there are people in the u.k. celebrating the self-inflicted wounds of taking all those rights away from ourselves crazy. yeah no i mean look i actually if you're an east european country to form a satellite states of your perception but it's interesting isn't it that your skepticism especially is on the ice in the eastern european countries that actually they want to depended on the united kingdom to be the voice of fact it's because the direction of travel of the european union is one that is absolutely veering towards the governments of europe it's not a federal block they don't like member states they want one entirely consolidated governments of europe and i did a very bizarre juxtaposition is that a proud nation like scotland that has been campaigning for people like james be campaigning for independence would want to be subsumed into a block where they would be a tiny little parts that have very little democratic voice and abseil the juggernaut careering 2 or something that doesn't represent a democracy it's all. so i can just stick to the same route really quickly to sort to what's in it is it is true there's lots of lots of countries there's this antipathy towards the european union but there's an 80 country that's this remotely close to the majority in favor of the thing i mean even in countries like italy which is the very rightly. so to say in the european union is about $75.00 or 80 percent the country with a lower case supporting the u a u.k. the czech republic actually was still about 70 percent in most places some of the 18000000 see so you know they don't like it in these countries they don't like the euro see them like that the way in which financial rules are forced on them but no the tools of the internet i think of i think a big part of that is of course you've got 17 countries financially locked in the european union because they became part of a single currency i think a lot of countries are sitting back and watching to see what happens with that and i think you've wrecked it is a success which i'm certain it will be i see no reason why it would be this cold fact how do you know it's going well listen what i think the discourse is fundamentally change and protect it it's a set of a kind of what i'm going to really have to say the last 3 and a half years debate when we've done that and we're now in the brics a transition period what i did want to bring in though is what we're talking about today is the future of the uni and of the you can say is it at risk on bricks a day we spoke to and picked up some of the opinions from nova knight and i should say that northern ireland voted 56 percent to stay in the european union hasten ideas from the street about how they're feeling about box set. a lot of people in bad form with this because a lot of education on whether. by the end of year a lot of others a hardball the resolve all of we're leaving we're appealing etain against our will and the deal that's in place is only a temporary measure i think you should measure the real important stuff is happening this year the timing for the elections for island is on county now and what she will be expecting coming up for this weekend. well in the south in the republic of ireland i mean if any of the issues they're already super exit things do the housing crisis and health care and frankly that you know that the echoes of all the austerity that brussels and post on when the banks went on several years ago i don't completely bend over for germany and so they would say voss and civil saraswati and put the devil the people that list ill suffer the consequences of all that now there's a terrible as it crosses in dublin where there is a sudden expense in the working class people having to move out of town completely so so sense that that's the source of the issue that should faine are doing very well in the election in the south but that's because every position themselves are sort of a left wing 11 populous policy issue in northern ireland which is much more potent as this is over the nationals it will be completely dead against bretz it but it was the unison loyalists who said they were supporting it until boris johnson decided that his version of the 17 different versions of bricks you can have is the jury system the tradable the down the r.c. and at that point the unit said no we're not we're not we're not taking this at all because it aligns their economy much more with us of the republic than when i was a daughter for the election before christmas the loads of democratic in this party those who said they prefer to stay in the european union that than have the vote in the brics so that the concert is no no party or not in the sport for their inbred and that's a big problem for them actually it's almost a big problem as in scotland. i'm just think the. i think the irish general election regardless of what the issues are as far as words are concerned his bones are hot and impacts all in on the question of whether breaks it really does lead to the breakup of the united kingdom because f. shen fein becomes the largest single party in the doorbell and potentially if they lead a coalition government which would have been unthinkable and sell it stream we recently got up to a border pull firmly on the agenda on the good friday agreement the irish government would have a say in that and if there's a border pull in northern ireland then there's a reason realistic chance of a united ireland but in a few years not could have a knock on effect in scotland so i think what's happening in ireland is absolutely fascinating alex is that both thinking that the that and maybe of will for the union of the to broadcast was not part of the same. this is i think actually very to follow pragmatic and that's what i think a lot of voters understand that we need to wait and see what circumstance the change is as a result. i'll tell you this we have to look i don't like what boris johnson has done in putting up or to die in the irish sea i completely fundamentally disagree with that i think even very cynical and tactical to use the idea of the good friday agreement or the hot border between the island to push their cause to try to make it stay in the customs union and i think the years of wretched but peddling by to reason may boris johnson always had no choice but to swallow this just to get it done using his campaigning slogan so we are in the situation we're in that it puts northern ireland in a peculiarly unique position which although i disagree with it could be economically to their advantage because they will be the middleman between the e.u. and the united kingdom that could well see a huge influx of investment into northern ireland and i would say actually you know let's give time's a manifest let's see what happens i think economically it's going to be a success as you'll notice that the bank recently has turned to the e.u. talking about a level playing field so the u.k. on its doorstep is not too competitive we had all of this old wrecked it's going to be a disaster now the narrative is switched oh my gosh we must make sure britain doesn't make a success because they go it but that isn't it isn't it. isn't it to sing us a cause we don't we think yet. of course without you this now comes down to what the conservative government with a big majority choose to do because we've heard a lot general election. will get all of our fishing rights back you know he's talking the talk the question is is he going to walk the walk and the negotiations begin in earnest and botch there's a very short time spoke about if there's going to be an extension to the transition period house to have come june so alex take take take a pause alex because i want to bring in some people who are pair as well astro says you should ask the parks lady that is alex a former any pay for the bricks a potty why should scotland have to ask permission from westminster and still call the e.u. democratic so i think what we're actually saying that in order for scotland to have a another referendum they have to actually ask for it from the from the government they have to have to ask permission. why why should. i say i don't like the law but that is the united kingdom stands as a nation together consolidated well a united kingdom before nations by all means but we have become been a separate entity for centuries and scott did have the democratic votes in 24 scottish people said no i'm full referenda i'll vote for change change and what do you guys change that's something they said no not really on this basis i was promised by the no campaign in the referendum in 2014 that it would keep scotland and the european union we were told of voting for and i did not take an act of your opinion so it's not only the right the whole basis upon which we voted against independence has gone and there was another moment basically it was i don't remember that the scottish referendum was anything to do you membership but what is it we don't let's win it we want it so that was exactly he told me that we were in the pensions that would take us out of the european union and we voted against it we would stay and and lightly are you going to start reaching down and want to be an absolute tidy middle of a member state in the government if you're if you couldn't states you're just being a player like i was because like ireland which has had no clue whatsoever what it's like and we have england speaking over scotland scotland go ahead. ireland has demonstrated the power that a small country has within the european union because the result direct between the 27 e.u. countries scotland be far more powerful will be able to protect its power far better as a member state of the european union we have no power whatsoever within the u.k. our course is totally ignored we have tried to compromise with. you have a huge i think evolution i'm telling you that still because. they said this is really a little bit loud so let me bring in some more scottish voices this is from the 1st day of actually what's happening let's have a listen. it's a sad day for scotland there to be t.v. or dr as i would say of the ear. buds will be shocking. but what 62 percent of the scottish people hoarded data mean the e.u. will be against her beliefs and i disagree all of. those are all made of bricks is a wrong that was my call. by the detroit a ticket sales. now let me bring you back into the conversation hat i'm just looking on the cheap right now thermodynamics says brooks it is too in english the scots and irish where it is only a matter of time before they leave the u.k. have been covering this for such a long time what's your take on the. when it's done in the public that the police are the demographic you know. scotland's 5000000 and a lot of the wealth of the 3000000 englands whatever it is 50 something 1000000 primary bricks bricks it is an english rather than a british. thing is that you know the problem i think it's going to alex making literally the bricks. is the potential accusation of hypocrisy one of alex's former colleagues claire fox let me be as well they're very interesting article saying about the celebration of sorts when when the u.k. left and people are interested swordfish sports listen but it's all of all nations big and small. explained they were scotland's concerned and you know the there is a child of course it's the maid against that equally i think i think it's probably also true that even though the polling sort of that moment suggesting potentially marginal majority for leaving you know to the idea of yes impeding my what i'm struck for them before it's become clear what direction actually looks like i think actually it was the s. and p. up to charges trying trying to force something through without it would be able to make a completely reasonable decision because plainly once once it becomes clear it is telling whether cities hold and are all sorts to war whatever it turns out to be then i think you know if if people of color then said ok we really do want another referendum because there has been this much material change of the good the very unreasonable through and through houston. and i agree with that and i just want to weigh in defense of my colleagues have got because she is a huge advocate of free speech yet she has her think tank all about the freedom of speech and i don't think in any way shape or form and i did say that he cut the largest most of the night so putting that to one side scotland has had recommended in 24th you know look i agree with you if materially the changes after practice it's not suitable to scotland if scotland had said i'd say we wanted dependence now we've seen the consequence is a big decision that was taken by the u.k. and the u.k. joined as a conference it's ok we have to leave as a company that is just the way it works but it's got intense and it you know 5 years and says let's have this process it's have another referendum i would fully support but i believe in democracy i believe the power should be closer to people let me just bring in a way i was into this conversation wales voted about 20 percent 29 percent. to. devoted never really to leave. early may seem like it's right and i think it's mining by in fact i don't know if we thought were in my mind i was is to can say so i mean let me. let me let me show you let me show you the map so we can see what we're talking about here so this is talking about the 2016 and the areas isn't in the orange of the places where people wanted to remain in the united kingdom and wales is just there on the left hand side a little bit up from the. from from the english channel and then you can see well and 52 percent wanted actually to leave but i also want to share with you one of the campaigns that is actually looking to see if this actually might be possible this is sean john prince he is from the chair of the u.s. kumari and this is what he has to say about wales and the independence movement have a look ukase going through from the tree in general of the people who is trying to do it the possibility that you won't exist if you. listen. and people are no support vote for independence that's a huge change in who is from starting from basically standing start a few years ago westminster doesn't like in sixty's the g.d.p. was out of greece today there's a public g.d.p. is 4 times bigger with its independence is only going to depend as to who is and things are. i'm just wanting the practicalities of the independence movements that were once quite fringe and now becoming quite popular people speaking about the quite openly did you anticipate this you spent so much of your career working to have happen your laughing but this is how you put it up i don't know it's pretty serious. you know i spent a lot of my career working in wales both as a journalist and in politics and what i'm going to tell you is there is very little . independence in wales there's not even outlets. for lucian in wales and this idea that all of a sudden lied to me about a bunch of wales was independent just for the but that is not what any sort of polling suggests actual i am actually school keeping the united kingdom together of course i am but i'm a democrat and i believe in referenda and like i said the referendum because we joined we had to leave as united kingdom let's see how it plays out i believe it's going to be a fantastic success actually gave me fantastic success to scotland as well as i do you know that i like but if it isn't likely what i see mrs james chuckling in my ear then look democracy let's go for it you're no theo will be going to brussels by the way all your fish will be gone to brussels not even going so you know the islands of europe. i don't think i would have temps. no i just always keep saying that you came in and that's a unitary state i had to leave the industry that's not the case it's all you know if you look at these things when i said you know it will be one of the band markets as only you there are 3 component parts of denmark 2 of them are not in the e.u. that barrow i don't think remember not an e.u. so you know if you go back to 20 sec team a lot of people made the point it was carefully possible risk of 1000 northern ireland to either remain in the u. as part of the u.k. or shoot at least remain in the single market and customs union as part u.k. that would impair fully possible that well i've been there on the u.k. site is the u.k. intransigence there is need these things and possible and ironically that's hard line british nationalism and such that it can be no deal otherwise in the u.k. why deal apart from northern ireland of course scotland doesn't get into preferential the other northern ireland that's getting its hard line base nationalism that ironically that probably well kelle the u.k. you know as i just remember about a year ago you did a report and it was about people getting ready for breakfast and i remember one woman in particular she's right here on my laptop she's gulf food supply she is ready for proxy we are in the present transition period and i was just looking to see what's the he government saying about it and it basically nothing's going to be different between now and the end of the here it's going to be exactly the same as it was before breakfast today can you kind of work as our one path for us what the next 11 months are going to be that what's going to happen here you see this is this is a this well it's just you know this is the big deceit. system to talk about something else starts each year the actual acts of leaving the european union is seen as these obviously very important psychologically for the. it is entirely unclear what brics is going to be just just yet because. according to the great minister of the you know they're going to get a deal by the end here and if they do get a deal by the end of the year that doesn't matter because they'll do wander off and do deals with hundreds of the also whatever exists. and it's incredibly open and plenty of the out there the idea they could do a trade deal with the united states it is actually a little chunks of a 1000000 other things to think of. that is because absolute rubbish so you know that it's a thing what they're trying to do the moment he sees is he's trying to get everybody to think about something else completely acceptable so sick of bricks it and then claim that it's finished when when we win plainly it's not all. you know but all of the problems that they're all that you know who did the sins of the day about whether scott was going to go or not a lot of them might go all the products of the facts of the deal that boris johnson did but which of the trades the water down the other city big because it cuts through all the gulf and kind as you know who might potentially give not a lot and especially given the states this witness calling to say well what about us you know it's this is the in belfast's and in. the scotland which is 75 percent improvement and this is sort of the brics it's got disaster and all over the you know as a thank you for joining us james kelly thank you alexandra thank you very much for joining us revealed very. 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