Transcripts For ALJAZ The Stream 2020 Ep 1 20240713 : comp

ALJAZ The Stream 2020 Ep 1 July 13, 2024

On al jazeera. I mean ok and you know in the stream today in india will mass protests stop the countrys controversial new citizenship law we will take a look at the debate surrounding the citizenship Amendment Act you can be part of the conversation as well where on twitter at 8 a stream and streaming live on. Ringback im an actor writer and activist but most importantly a human voice and you are in the street. Protests across india are continuing their fight against a new citizenship law that excludes muslim immigrants and they stuck in fear of great to add to muslim discrimination in the country the citizenship at pass parliament in december and grants no muslim immigrants from pakistan afghanistan and bangladesh a quick apostle a toward citizenship because of more benefits only people certain religions protesters say it goes against india secular constitution. We are protesting because this law divides the country on the basis of religion the tradition of our country has been unity in diversity india is not just a hindu nation india is made up of different communities. Over the weekend hundreds of thousands marched in hyderabad and in other cities across india one protest was met with clashes that injured up to 30 students at a Prominent University in new delhi so what kind of impact will Massive Public outcry have if any with us to talk about this in new delhi i should read out a protester a student at Indias National Islamic University in hyderabad a sad day in a way see a member of Indias Parliament and in Miami Florida to care tana a lawyer after school commentator its good to see you everybody i want to start with a little flavor of what its like to be online theres so much support in terms of social media going against various different perspectives on the citizen Amendment Act give you a little flavor here grandma protesting the hash tag c a a underscore n r c protests let me just give you a little bit of grandma in the streets here. Just to be clear this protest is against this is the Amendment Act i mean if you love a little sample here this hash tag see a protest 15 year old janay destroyed 9 vehicle stealing these protests is motherboard he has been served notice to recover damages and she has no money or property and im not sure about this bit about how she is going to raise the money but we move on we give you one more example and this is poetry for the people again against a citizen a member an act. The audience or absent of obviously rap of attention here enjoying the poetry how to care this is not im usual poetry in the streets people protesting and they are doing so with great fervor when you see this against a citizen a member that has already happened its already illegal what is your reaction how do you explain this to the world this is not just isolated bits of social media that im showing people in india a genuinely concerned about this or not. Well i think i the issue with the protest is that im sorry to say it results from a misunderstanding of the law and im also sorry to say that not a lot of people who started the protest actually have read the law the law is being touted as anti muslim but lets look at the law or lets look at the situation as it were if these laws were and if this law wasnt whats the right of a muslim non indian who is an immigrant in india if hes a legal immigrant he can say under the rules of his visa if hes an Illegal Immigrants and its divided into 2 sections one is. Someone who is fleeing persecution on any grounds like its nice to be religion etc that person under the government policy can continue to get whats called a long term visa which is a refugee policy of the government of india and thats illegal immigrant who is just an economic migrant who is coming to india for such a better life would obviously is liable to be deported theres no refugee policy for him theres no policy that protects him what does the citizenship Amendment Act do does it render this muslim non indian that i know i want to go i want to be sentenced a consequence again you have been stopping by telling them the people who want their dressing in the streets as i made up the abduction without it also be i absolutely shattered not being able to grab his today and i guess at the same ill tell you i was with the one of the students here was that indeed i have seen and i have rang the people i have spoke to the people all over the in the i dont really want to have that and then i then understand everything regarding this the hate all of the states is being its not also big and how to say this signing what in what seems on the side of the word that and yet he said everyone including everyone else can only and they live for understand that being the odds will mark all read also that its not willful big ideology which the be the Big Government and the nation state from the information or will they obviously im going to. The big when there will be bited india on the basis that really the president of the people all over the plain but again i dont want to argue when youre a leader you might not be in circles so gas isnt youre not a veteran character here and that and i shall hold tight for one moment so im just going to catch everybody opposite me the outside of india so they really do appreciate why this is such a fierce debate so as to kay was explaining this is an Immigration Law it impacts foreign refugees from neighboring countries it particularly impacts people of different names the faves but nobody included in those faves where they form refugees can get accelerated immigration status none of them are muslim it doesnt name any muslims which is why im sure saying this is a summer phobic i should as you were speaking to care come back in just a moment as you were speaking we were seeing huge protests from just this weekend in hyderabad why are people out on the streets in such numbers i show you go ahead. People had their day and they were clearly and the audience what does the app is all about i have to say there see it it should not be analyzed it cannot be understanding alone it could be connected with and not be connected with n. P. R. Benami b. And c. But in great ive been that one of the intensity in the its not its not my poor big genocide going to happen in india the people who have understand that people have got everything for them people have yet and i live over that back thats why the people that coming in but not that they are coming in the street in their mosques numbered this is the best they can freedom fighting back to happening in india this is what our existence that this might be with her or the one that you know especially in the universe that if you have seen that how good believe the attacking the b. Student in the universe who did how the police have been at bad the people in their people in you would be you that what the british people how to tell if they were bad bad but if you think me in the chain you are on the good listening when was the day my big do you know when you got there going the people who are into gear go to our Community Norm and the lot is the barbers the are getting the people who are educating people oh i can see it again. So here are even the outward happening is the up and sect of race is easy why should i shy again im going to ask you just to slow down just a little bit so everybody can see hear what youre saying and understand what you say because you have been involved in these protests since the beginning of the sound got to go ahead go ahead yes the only question i want to show is that this law citizenship amendment if the really the goal of the government was to make this a hindu state or a new nation as a she is alleging why would christians why would parsis which is arrested and you know originating from iran several years or several hundreds of years ago why would they be included in the law and the reason is that this law is about religious persecution that minorities suffer in 3 may bring countries and let me tell you very specifically all constitutions of the. These 3 countries specify islam to be the state religion now how can you potentially argue them are slim so you know the our country iran iraq and iran are my refuge to protect. Him or made it do i realize how close we dont actually i are refugees and theyre fleeing religious persecution like hotcakes isolation back and saying its no islamophobia sat there going out join us join us a 2nd i had. No with mr carter good or did it deliberately misleading your viewers. The basic structure of the india because you should and know more about this movie government id document and widely the basic structure of the constitution. Please understand i dont know that under this or citizenship i dont know the state of asylum. In the state i saw. 1. 9000000 people lives that explored it is that p. J. Finance minister abbas who says he only said that the 500000 are bengali tindalls been be given citizenship india citizenship under citizen i dont act the 500000 muslims bengali muslims who have been excluded from my top but a lot of it isnt really shared this in itself and just could marry such as these are just sad for the for the 2nd side of the saddle that would lead them to say raise and lower economic analysts the fact that no not included in a systematic act that is that is the problem so the people who are protesting let me just telling him as a joke because no no no no no no no no no no no no no no please the problem of it the problem is you dont government has why noted the constitution of india you cannot make laws to the best of religion laws have to get it yes yes you can the constitution i think the. Reality is that if the particular going got talked about that acting social wrongs an article 15. 16 differentiate between laws what could a little thing be out and you cannot make bits of the footage at the base of religion that i did like we say that you are changing the girl it is on the day i was if youre just going to beat this country cannot become pakistan this country would not become bangladesh this country would definitely not become about this time and as an indian design i dont care about whats happening in pakistan bangladesh or not but it is not because understand that you cannot avoid it my constitution you cannot take away it you cannot make laws of the basis of religion because the end result would be this country would become a chaotic country so yes. If i like it or not i would not want to bring in some other voices. That aside if i may i want to bring in some other voices into this conversation this could be a legal or policy conversation but it goes beyond this because people are being killed people being beaten and there is violence amongst the protesters i want you to have a listen to serapion arayan can laugh and shes a senior lecturer at the university of cambridge from her perspective this is what the protests are about have a listen have a look at the opposite ends of as a refugee no but it is not the law in fact introduces a stratified notion of citizenship in which privileges of religion and in need of class determine political but the law in this sense runs contrary to the commitments to equality and nondiscrimination that are provided in the Indian Constitution it is contrary to preamble of values of a secular and socialist republic and it is also what noting in the past few days as protesters have tried to invoke these Constitutional Values they have been met with very high intensity high scale violence from the state which is particularly targeted at muslim areas and cities. So im also just looking here at what the p. J. P. Is is saying hand theyre talking about spread facts not myth you can have a look here on my laptop and they are talking about people just just not understanding the citizen. Amendments act and theyre putting out the information here to case youre saying exactly but want to sing says happening is why a people being beaten why Police Beating protesters why is that violence amongst this protest if its just a question of facts and educating the public why is that thats why people being killed because family everyone in the nation has seen how buses public property have been torched by protesters we have no there india is no issue and cannot have any of you know what i look so dont see i know i shot you and i resent you i dont have anything and countless lining up because mostly i dont think any of mine what a bunch of the kind of pretty i am i am a big magnet for energy but i just i dont need a quick look i was about. 8 out of there you know i guess its really crazy that youre not all on the same page about that which is great because thats why we invited you to be on the stream very simply just very simply why are people being beaten why is there a fight as if its just a question of facts and showing the facts for the public. Briefly that its absolutely possible that individual instances the police may have committed some excess and actually i mean theres no im not going to deny that im not may have a full refund be offered may have you know such a balance i get no news we dont do a full story only fit into the genocide we got off as i young student job and really i was reading in the library and i live stream lost as gump let me like what theyre really going to get most of it is lost is almost and come on you know what are you talking about its pretty good and i didnt get it but at least you know when you have met a protest that happened in the police was trying to maintain law and order some. Under the old executive theres. No denying it i once again im just going to ask you just to put off for a moment guess im going to ask you to pause for a moment this is overseeing a very very important topic for you because your voice is a of being raised here. Why is there violence explain to us why from your perspective as a perspective as a protester whose experience fight its why is there violence. You know why have these bad viral video everywhere going everybody that we dont have a gun or it happened why dont you know me better father every day from dr mehmet i said i think im going to be i going to ask you to talk me through this video because im going to show it for you this is the headline that we showed to our audience has gone out to see we dont call him indias jimmy a women who took on delhi police in viral video so this goes back to early december in a sentence tell us where you were what you were doing and then im going to play the video so you just set it up in a sentence i should go ahead what happened to the business whats going on be in between have been blocked or someone you either do not you think by the game seems to be dont want to make it or by lender i bet the biggest you are god forbid begin to leak in a national id its also not at all not at the national what i read the. Group believe toward the broadcasters and about there in the lead up to the moment well is that you know all over the area and all going to be looking can be used and one of my very bloody dot had big problems the receiver had the courtyard open house in order to you were at large of my shutdown that i have a video now only i pad im going to play the video because the pictures of worth a 1000 words is the that saying so let me just show you a little im going. To here we have a protest this is an early december. Im going to makes a good point you do not know the situation do you not know how this starts but you do see. And see the scene. And their actions and the stakes and. Then look look i show look i show what shes doing shes when the red red skull off here and shes. Thinking i like that finger wagging went viral. And if the women had not been there who knows what happened to the gentleman on the floor ok lets move on this that there is a he said she said all they said they said theyre going to say here but that there are genuine fears aside that some think that this idea of the citizen Amendment Act that theres Something Else that is going to happen after this that it might escalate what are the fields that are driving people onto the street for the a making people like a case and you dont understand the facts what are the sins can you articulate them for me. Yes the government intends to do now still going to subsidize the. Home minister used to be a menace and said in the parliament what it is and how to see because i dont see it as it is the same site of one inquiry and yet i dont see both of them ought to be done under citizenship act of 155. 00 the national they want to stay out of citizens and then also have a National Party have just me they dont exist a. F. C. s as you know concerns that they may well exist for the honing exactly right the government thats clearly said that and to do better the guy would be speaking different voices the kind of news of people who believe he was those and beyond is done and for example if my name is excluded i had im off to produce documents i havent got sequestered dont put citizen and he wont get a good object to my inclusion and as an indian citizen this yes yes seen in the state of asala i did beat up here in the state of asada 500000 muslims theyve exploded 500000 bengali hindu they have explained that god when this discriminatory law wants to give citizenship to the 500000 bengali hindus that are there so the disc is made to be so how can i say i probably would write in case we would get lost cannot tell you what Prime Minister modi said about peoples feelings about this could escalate and you could end up with a National Registration like history of citizens this is what he sounds to that charge have a muscle man is kind of ironic about forgot to tell you that the odds that after my government came into power since 2014 i would like to tell the people in india that nowhere has an r. C. Been discussed there has been no talk of it because of the Supreme Courts direction we had to go through that in a song what are you the opposition talking about lies are being spread i think im going to have got an opera. I see youve been protesting for so you know its mind and youve put yourself in danger and im going to just leave that as as thats what Prime Minister modis pushed by case the people who are worried about the escalation from the c. A. A. I sure youve been out there youve faced. Being in a very risky situation why are you doing it what is at stake for you then since. Exhausted and if we are not acting against mr

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