So no matter how you take it. There and well bring you the news and Current Events that matter to you is iraq. And i really could be here in the stream going on holiday in something and many people look forward to chance to get away from the stress of everyday life and let this place what is that new price is too crowded can you relate whether as a tourist or a resident of a City Catering to tourists share your thoughts with us via twitter or our live you tube chat. Venice barcelona. P. Q. All these popular destinations have become overwhelmed by tourists in recent years and local residents are starting to say enough. In june and massive cruise ship crashed into adult in venice injuring 5 people the incident was the last straw for many local residents 1000 kava to protest the vessels and the tourists who write in on them have a look at this. When i see these big bruisers passing by the cast a shadow on my entire home and i feel a sense of doom. But this is a case study for what trowel experts are warning will be the new normal from now on thats thanks to a growing global middle class and cheaper air fares so our cities prepared for over tourism heres what one eco Friendly Travel group has to say. In 1950 there were 25000000 tourists arrivals worldwide this number grew exponentially of the following 70 years and reached 1300000000 by 2017 its estimated it will reach 1700000000 by 2030 all over the world is what happens when an industry which is being started but is very little begins to bump up against the limits of our environment the physical limits of space and its in that sense i think its its not a rush its all over the world. Joining us to discuss over tourism today is meghan aplan wood from reading pennsylvania megan is the director of the International SustainableTourism Initiative at the harvard th Chance School of Public Health sweetie ballot she joins us from new delhi india as she is a travel journalists and car and editor for the outlook for sponsible Tourism Initiative and finally we have Dominic Standish is the author of venice in environmental peril with every outing everybody swishy you sent us a picture is gorgeous picture as im going to show them to everybody on my laptop this is a stunning place festival where in the world this is. I think the game of thrones i mean you know when the audience is live immediately know it theyre having the song this is kings landing. Yes yes thats the problem lets. Check now why do you send us this picture for us festival. I think you know this was in contrast to some of the other pictures that i sent you off the city of the old city old town where you could actually see just how many people were walking the streets that morning and you know it its that 1st view that we saw is something that takes your breath away but its these that you know that make you think a little bit harder and dont get me wrong im from india you know im used to crowds i you know i am part of the crowd myself so i i dont see it as being you know something that that that should shock a person like myself but it did really because it seemed wrong to just have so many people walking through those beautiful streets and not really you know looking at them you know they were there it was an idea of the police that they were there for and not not really you know to brag it was things language to most of them and you know say the last occasion a classic example from the perspective of what over tourism it is in 29. Yes i would say so. So id love all of our guests to have a look at this on my screen here just from google or couple of pictures and our audience at home as well to see that this is st augustine in the u. S. State of florida and i want to share with you a video coming from someone who lives there he is a local Business Owner and is also a resident and he told us about what hes been experiencing when it comes to tourism how to listen to brett. This is the old the city in the country so weve had our share of tours d before but nothing like this in the last years this town has been a nightmare for locals with the worst traffic never seen theres hardly any parking at the beach and the tourists here have no respect for us or the Community Even garbage everywhere not to mention many of the locals that live here on the beach for years now. Due to the fact the rising costs of living here on the island and no new hotels condos restaurants and bars have covered our beautiful once little beach town and i dont think itll be the same again so macon you could see what he laid out there when we talked about over tourism is this what were talking about whenever tourism is a totalistic term that relate primarily to crowding so yes we are some of the most beautiful places on earth becoming increasing over crowded yes this is a good example to me just remind everybody where you live and the experience as a local that we have when. I live in the venice region its a lead i mean its just slightly outside of the city which i will say yes pretty busy at times although i question whether its really across this you know sometimes i get stuck and i mean why when im watching to a meeting and its annoying. But its not really up until recent. You have been basically keeping track of examples of various saying you know were tired of all of these tourists this is long before we started to do the show so im just going back to reading through some of your tweets the 23 year old canadian find 250 euros for sunbathing in a bikini in Public Gardens in venice thats one story you can track off to Police Choice find 350 euro in venice for being bare chested and pushing their bikes by hand in the city center bikes are back and one more but youve kept track are so many more 1st 3 people are banned from venice are foreigners for playing tricks on passers by dominic what is going on in venice with tourists and phoenicians had enough of the tourists coming to visit them. Well i think about every straightforward thing has happened which is that for years and years tauruses been increasingly treats it as environmental and cultural has and then is says taken it a step further by the city council and take the lead with these new regulations introduced in may and essential what theyre doing is theyre criminalizing fairly normal behavior so somebody doing an art like that canadian woman is a public place shes wearing a bikini and she gets fines Walking Around with you should talk pushing a bike youre not really troubling anyone but again people are getting fined and theyre also getting anish from the city to German Tourists recently who were making coffee on a small portable coffee maker totally out of the way of other people no evidence of littering they not only got fines but they got banished from the sit sit so i think this is a real problem. You know its not not only in venice you see in barcelona now if you walk around in your youth in costume in the Center Barcelona you can be fined in rome you can even now be fined for dressing as a said tuireann or saying on public transport. Or eating food being numb designates it outside areas theres also a man spray i think i have well i didnt want to get a reading now me that while you know i think this has happened people on social media need to be aware of this because unaware tourists are going to places and theyre getting hefty fines and travel bans its friday i have a comment because i mean i appreciate your viewpoint than the theology of tourism which i know is your expertise but theres a lot Bigger Picture here to deal with for the readers and folks that are watching this today and that is that the rapid growth of tourism is creating a whole new paradigm for death and. Ishan now they may be struggling with putting in the right type of regulations which is what youre talking about but i think what youre saying is minimizing the problem in a way that will harm the overall process because what we need to do is come up with a much more alert way of managing the intensifying crabs and i disagree with you this is a Global Crisis im sure that choice can speak to the issues in india say for example at some of the most important monuments in the world like taj mahal. Yeah so i mean just you know things in perspective recently they what they were large indications that that were applied in india and because it does of being even look is it. About 2 things up from just 50 rupees to visit the monument and theres a capital about 40000 visitors a day and a 3 hour limit so anybody who will exceed the 3 hour limit is you know has to pay once again and you can imagine how livid the locals you know who might be all that unions visiting my d. That they have to buy another ticket to just stay on for 3 and a half oz if theyve exceeded it by even by half an hour but you know it doesnt matter at the end of the day if you have 7000000 tourists coming in. To see one monument and its just you know its in its relentless i i think there is need for there is need for regulation and you know you may have identified a few things that seem particularly you know. You know its a bit over much less for you but you know it depends on which culture or your. It could be actually deeply disrespectful in india to be Walking Around bare bare chested in the northern parts of india but if you walk into a temple in Southern India as a man thats absolutely fine so those are one of those that somebody was coming in for a few days into india may not necessarily be aware off and you know that kind of act is yeah yeah just a quick comment because just today headlines in the United States with that there is a huge water crisis in india and some of the most important tourism destinations now we already know that terrorism and tourists in particular use about 8 to 10 times the amount of water that a local with youth and sometimes depending on the resort it can be even much more. Or so from the Public Health perspective for example were beginning to see a different kind of crisis that is not just about crowding its about how do we share resources around the world now we see this in india bali is another epicenter of this problem where were seeing tourists literally use water that locals can no longer gain access to these are Serious Problems that we cant minimize by way of discussing whether we wear a bikini tops or not so when you are at home and i want to get in here because i want to share a comment on you tube theres so many comments coming in live right now because so many people can relate to this topic so i want to share just one of them this from alexander who says my city of a 150000 people will receive close to 400 cruise ships this year the city is overwhelmed and hes speaking to us from savander norway and other people are are weighing in on what hes saying so thats just one example but when it comes to the cruise ship when it comes to the crowds of people coming in heres what sophia ventured to say limits visits to the city to certain times of the year this would also allow the city to continue to function as a home for people in venice probably would never happen however i know of no place that implements this but venice can start dominick ill be a major if i could go ahead go ahead clearly you have a lot of the so here we go is that basically a lot of people are now talking about stopping or seeing or season allies doing it and our new report invisible burden of tourism look seriously at how were going to handle capacity not by stopping or abrupt stopping of tourism but rather at creating sophisticated reservation systems now we may have to going to work through that question of how that will work but there is no question that there is a very sophisticated set of tools that are fully available to monument cities cruise lines everyone is a sharable tool that airlines and use now thats called demand management and there is absolutely no reason that destinations around the world that dominate go ahead. Yeah i mean of course tourism can be managed better and in the case of venice im very much in favor of great seeing a new doc in court for cruise ships outside the venice look go and getting people into the city using a subway train system which i think would be a huge improvement so the experience of tourism controlling the flows and also be much better for the environment because they reduce journeys around the so we can manage tourism a lot better coming back to points i agree that culturally where you walk around with a shirt off koran is its important to be sensitive and i would tend to walk into some arts church and with russia talk but of course theres a different context in the gardens ive also got a question though you mentioned this charge for people in new delhi to go and see sights and thats an important question because venice is proposing an entrance charge to the city next year for a day trip theres even a riding in the city and i wonder to what extent you feel that also discriminates against ports or arrests whether theyre local from what else lach. So i agree that you know that it could be seen as a you know discriminate tree but look at the numbers you know. Just if you look at the mess dictators in india alone is a huge huge problem because we have over 600000000 people who are roughly in the middle class range and you know theyre traveling everybodys traveling you know so its its it is going to take time for us to arrive at the right solutions but if you they are also trying to make it accessible to as many people as possible this is the basic entrance fee for the average indian tourist anywhere else of our monuments or 150. 00 rupees at best its not its not a huge sum for somebody who was looking to travel and from what i have been told i mean our figures are spectacular you know 150000000 people cant afford Long Distance travel for leisure im told and 500000000 people are on on the internet and they are you know theyre booking a holiday is the beginning to book quality is on the internet so you know its these numbers are only going to swell. Maybe pricing waiting or the only solution i guess to me just bring in another point might make it hold tight for a moment i want to share this with you and you can weigh in on it as part of the growth of people who are traveling comes from the developing world the developed world have been traveling for many many many years but theres a new category of toys and its something that our colleagues at one o one ace looked at they were looking at the number of chinese toys coming into paris and heading into front and then the tension that that was creating with the numbers and also the difference in the culture have a look at it i mean talents report from paris from what i want to stay. They dont say hello they dont speak english they dont speak french well new speak chinese when you have 10 people Chinese People coming in that. Its very nosy and i dont understand. But she says what really gets to her is the speech to the woman she came and she stood down and she has a name in english. In the in the floor and you know like well. So thats one example if im thinking about the south of spain and the number of europeans in the south of spain you can get a 4 english breakfast there with some seats that you can eat the british coaches tally change the south of spain and parts of the south of spain so its not just developing well countries who actually do this to an area its just a problematic always thats just how we are around the world we visit different places we influence different places shweta you stuff just show i mean bad behavior is bad behavior you know its bad you know the worst was insensitive was an insensitive tourist it has nothing to do with whether you are from a developing nation are not i understand that you know i was sure of the differences and make it hard to bridge that gap and you know thats the thats the biggest barrier so at the end of the day i think it would be it would be very very wrong to just you know say that this is a problem that is restricted to doris from developing nations its more from the increase of who who is travelling from around the world its not just a few elite people its many many other countries and cultures or getting into the mix my can you take. Part of global and i think weve seen the history of tourism showing that used to be a korean target that bothered folks that were in indonesia or when i was in the philippines doing workshops there with complaints from the filipinos about chinese curse so these are parts of the country mixing for the 1st time but weve also seen if that as a tourist become worth the 50 k. Did they become more respectful. So i want to share this as an explanation for why we are seeing greater numbers of people out in about all these places this is just on twitter who says the biggest 3 biggest reasons for the growth in hot spots are the artificially low cost of aviation the fuel is not taxed the rise in the middle classes in developing countries and a narrow focus on places generated by instagram and social media of course the rise of the hash tag and the rise of people tagging where they are so i want to share with you this idea from someone in instagram i posted this picture from malta which is one of these places where tourists are flocking to because many of its city many of its spots were were featured in the game of thrones someone wrote back and said have you been following the concept of no geotagging i just came across it through a photo journalist apparently its been making the rounds to address how geo tags suddenly make previously untouched by Tourist Spots flooded all too often simply capture that one shot bringing all the environmental chaos but tourists bring to a locale so that is one idea but i want to share with you one more idea and this is a video comment from neil speaks to us from scotland have a listen. On the topic of what to do as a month specifically with scotland in mind the solutions are over in 2 key things as far as i can see firstly this thing need to despair soffit through the course of the counted you know we are very very busy in july and august in a supposed trying to encourage people to come in the shoes of seasons and even the went to as well for a different kind of experience with lace crates secondly its a bit of training because people whom we from the technical tuto