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ALJAZ Inside Story 2019 Ep 167 July 14, 2024

Take themselves is to be squarely put at the doorstep of the south sudanese leadership if that is so i did think ok what. Would what about the the the International Community the question that i put to alan a few moments ago about of the countries who helped played a role in helping sudan achieve some standard cheviots independence should the International Community have been paying more attention doing more trying to head off this crisis was or was to a certain extent it inevitable because theres a theres a an element of of of whether involved here of climate involved. No there is as alan said i think there has to be recognition of the failure at the outset to combine state building which a lot of countries like the u. S. The u. K. Norway were engaging in in 2011. With the nation building which was to try to focus on recounts island south sudanese because again like islands that even when there is a civil war the the war that mock makes the most damage is they in turn seen the ethnic relationships between the dinner and the between various communities of income between this and that it is they are they the failure of the south sudanese state to build a sense of collective nationhood that has caused the most damage as well as the International Community can be blamed i think. It is only that disconnect between state building and nation building which they have failed to invest in an ak and say that the coming of independence the succession that starts with amateurs we. Can only it with him if anybody has to be blamed for it and i dont know why we should blame anybody because busy the south sudanese themselves who for and achieve that independence the countries that assisted in that process. Are now being distracted by their own concerns the United Kingdom is dealing with it the bracks it sound the United States is distracted by its own politics of isolationism. And america 1st kinds of politics so will south sudan cannot year after year expect the world to bail it out from its own thin and. And for actions that are attributed to drool believe as a bad country well come back to the points that you have you made there just just a moment but i want to go back to pier. To talk more about the the uns work in south sudan at the pier how many people are you currently aiding in the country. Because i think if you were for example we are seeing it. In moscow just for the from coming in but just for this reduces into these 450000 you need to basics you have the number so its all a masterful to put on the little british and we can do that and millions will for imus to redeem around 280. 00 more as johns of of 80000. 00 tons of food so its in these millions of people and we are sitting at the moment together with unicef 2 in the other organizations i want us to source on the fact that we are walking a lot with the Angels International n. G. O. S all n. G. O. S managed by this us learn as in defeat in scoring or their country if you look at them up of the months their critics were expanding before even in the area where there is no war and i was a little bit or saw in 2 and 5 and 6 just after the Peace Agreements and then we were already having the for the security in this area its almost everybody that it was affected by this by the by the by the by the by the starving so the program off of us would understand the why are these a program that absence of infrastructure is in custody to connect the cities between them so if you sort of measure issues the fact that the control for speeds there between the north and the sands or sort handed a lot of treats between the north and the sultan budget gaza most of traits from the soft unoriginality the south sudan is where the readers of livestock will sort after later on and got to him and then the sword was a big part of the big big markets of the system this is finished now because of all this is these groups and there is an immense other hans there is a. Of action that you can imagine is you Immediate Response but also what were trying to do is to abuse for the reason yes it sure aint to use the suite of peace in order to be able to as much as we guns like them for us to join a little improved food Storage Solutions and exchange between the meter in between what a. Joke what a joke was was making the point that the rains this year have been delayed that thats prevented. People planting so you know we may get the same as we had last year with with a poor harvest does the situation improve or worse that the fact that people are angry does it improve a worsen in the rainy season in south sudan. Yes so much of what we have to understand is. Still dated been from the rain in a Crop Production in the ocean is a main source of food of course in south sudan to be there was livestock and and shish and the problem is with bartering its a look at the stroke because everybody is depending so at the moment to destroy where there is a delay and when the certain areas surely to make an assessment on the final production in the final hours it goes again are a phenomenon of up are meaning that the plant is going to take although or so on plantings were just finishing the 1st season in what the way out so in the southern part of south sudan mines greed and. The disease of the plantations are starting right now but its true there is a delay and it is an issue you know already about we have some impacts some are some drugs are starting at midnight eastern that all of our africa so usually star sudan is only affected in eastern equally us or on the extreme on the very bottom not bought close to it your p. R. And the end and the seri are usually the rest of the countries not directly affected but this year we have to watch and its a risk that we can now we will have to fix of alan going back to what jock not a joke was was was saying if a few minutes ago about sudans problems ultimately being a failure of leadership youve met both president salva kiir and. What did you make of them. Well as you know they signed a peace deal in september 2800 so some 9 months ago. And they had agreed to form a unity government is the 2nd time they had agreed to do this but they agreed to form a unity government that was supposed to form and may. Last month they were reaching up to that deadline and they decided to extend it another 6 months after some negotiations an atlas of about. I had a chance to speak with both of them separately of course in may last month and id say the calculus on president kiir side is very much in terms of a delay that you know this preserves the status quo for him so its kind of an easy thing to agree upon for reactor machar the rebel leader whos supposed to come back in form the Vice President you know he faces a more difficult difficult set of calculations really because 1st of all the sudan was sort of his backer and interlocutor in the Regional Peace process that was president omar bashir and of course hes fallen from power recently so he faces a lot of regional uncertainty and you get a strong sense from him that hes really really waiting for things to sort of settle out the other thing is the way that the peace deal was structured machar basically had to produce all of his opposition fighters which are then to be integrated into the National Army before this unity government of informed the truth is a lot of the rebel army at this point has actually been demobilized and has gone home or to refugee camps so hes also just facing an issue of actually be mobilizing this army so the way to peace deal sequenced has become a problem but overall i just say from from both leaders there is not a strong urgency to sort of implement this peace deal and the real question is how long can the ceasefire that we currently have between those 2 sides continue to hold if we dont start to see some form momentum on this peace deal joked as the old got into the south sudan need to to make way for younger leaders if this is a failure of leadership people who are less bogged down by the past. Or more certainly ice in that has that is that is has theres a lot to be said about the change of guard but that is not for anyone to say but the south sudanese themselves the young people or the people who are outside government has to articulate this to themselves so that they can organize a rally around the need for a drastic shift in their way the country has been governed. Saw it is up to the south sudanese to find ways to navigate this is a delicate situation because right now the fact is that there is a very restricted civil environment. That makes it extremely difficult for any kind of civil the committee to be organized around this idea of the need for change. And so then again i think its now going now going back to implementation of the Peace Agreement which will then have an interim period after which there would be elections as in that thats the only way that jane can come at the moment but it is up to the south sudanese themselves to decide theres no question that the state has failed to uphold its responsibilities to the extent that there is any kind of health. Good security to the extent that there is education much of it up to 90 percent of it is being paid for through International Action so all the countries that are contributing money u. S. U. K. Norway European Union and all these other countries that are paying for their humanitarian action. Also have to try to figure out if they should follow that Financial Support of to the south sudanese with the kind of Political Action by way of diplomatic and other kinds of pressures so that the south sudanese that begins to do one had knowledge that there is a problem. 2nd begin to show how the south sudanese a state itself is going to take over what is essentially a responsibility of the state but has been completed neglected for the last 10 years alan will south sudan ever become a viable state. Eventually i think it probably will be but that path might be very long i think you know no one should underestimate the degree of the structural challenges that south sudan faces its a its a place which essentially geographically exist as a bunch of ethnic enclaves the few towns which really were mixed in a sort of south sudanese nationhood sense of certain way these are the places where actually the violence has been most intense and youve seen you know what we could be fairly characterized as that and cleansing in several of those towns at the beginning of the war so youre starting now from a place in terms of building a sows in these identity thats even further back than than where you were when this when the country was born and the other thing is just this is a place which which where theres almost no roads leading outside the capital which are all whether road so for half the year a huge portion of the country is basically out of reach except by helicopter that includes for the government itself so you can imagine the challenge of forming a state on a place where it where the governments not even able to access a huge portion of its country over time so i do think theres some larger questions. Of how we move forward in south sudan given the level of the challenges there and there is like several chicken and egg problems where its difficult to move forward on state building for instance until you have a political settlement that looks viable in the country and weve had a hard time getting that political settlement gentlemen that im afraid we missed and a discussion many thanks indeed pia voted out of boswell and joke about it joke and as always thank you for watching the program dont forget you can see it again at any time just by going to the website at down to 0 dot com for further discussion on the issue join us on our Facebook Page at facebook dot com forward slash a. J. Inside story and you can join the conversation on twitter handle at a. J. Inside story from adrian for the good of the whole team here in doha thanks for watching ill see you again bye for the. 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I dont know how the top stories here on aljazeera the day off to hong kong suspended a controversial issue dition bill thousands of demonstrators have filled the streets looking at live pictures now filled with people dressed in black as a sign of protest protestors say the chief executive caroline is decision to hold off on the proposed lowers not enough they want to scrap hold together they want to stop their opposed to the bill which would have allowed people who are wanted for certain crimes to be extradited to Mainland China scotland joins us live now from hong kong give us an idea whats going on. Right now where all those people are going here this is right in front of Legislative Council building behind me and theyve been gathering here weve been here for several hours and kind of pooled in this area behind me but then theyre also kind of going up that hill theres of large parts right next to the Legislative Council building and they are in that we know that theres a stage set up theres been singing theres been chanting but whats very interesting nic and this is what weve been hearing no confirmation of us but a lot of people who participated and witnessed last sundays march are saying that this march is if not the same size its bigger now obviously we wont get those confirmations and so later on in the evening possibly overnight but we do know from this Vantage Point weve seen a lot of people come in the police have had to close more roads because those protesters have gone into secondary roads in parallel roads from the main part that they were marching down so theyve been coming in here at a steady steady flow and if we think thats going to continue until those roads are empty and again the pool here whats going to happen next were hearing that some of the protesters will most likely stay here probably overnight not in big big numbers we dont expect because it doesnt appear like it did past sunday so what were probably going to see again as you were saying those main things that theyre focused on yes not that yes kerry lamb step down yes that that bill is killed not suspended but also theyre out here protesting the treatment the protests. Those have been getting over this last week specifically on the wednesday evening when there are violent clashes between protesters and riot police but government here came out and said that they treated these people the protesters who were out as rioters thats a different classification than has been used before that really upset the protesters and theyre out here protesting against that terminology and the police and how they have in the previous week now whats going to happen this evening its been a much different mood than say Late Wednesday evening when we had those clashes nic this is much more jovial its not celebrate story because obviously they still have demands that they want but its not the same as what we saw over the last several days but right now theyre still coming in by the thousands next scott thanks very much of a disco to reporting there from hong kong saudi jets of hit targets in the yemeni capital sana after who 3 rebels attacked 2 saudi airports. 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