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Organized protests to try and force Robert Mugabe out of office. How do i believe in the zimbabwean capital harare and joins us now live. Morgan tsvangirai was Prime Minister of zimbabwe from two thousand and nine to two thousand and thirteen in a National Union government with Robert Mugabe but hed also been Robert Mugabes fiercest challenger hows the news of his death likely to be received in zimbabwe. Well some of the local Radio Stations are now announcing that he is one of the three Vice President s of the party. I think a tweet saying that morgan hunger had passed away so we actually can focus on being on social media people calling in mostly enjoy the cowling figure hed be a challenge for god but hes not the former president he was each in many times he was accused of treason he was arrested and people say that even though he had his faults which he did he said you must be remembered as a man who tried to unite the country once the datas involved way and the biggest thing they Credit Control is many people try to keep up more Government People tried to speak out of it got a bit more time than i keep at it and we came so close in the two thousand and eight election when he narrowly became god in the first round but not enough to avoid a runoff and then his supporters were beaten pertaining to the election runnels he didnt pull out of that election say we cant participate in a flawed system so he called out and then after that offering to negotiation he then became Prime Minister who got there was kind of the president so a lot of people responding now say theyre going to miss him is still shocked obviously and theyre waiting for more news more assistance from the family and more senior members of the party. He did as you outlined there reach well near the panic a live power as close as one could possibly get him to Robert Mugabe as Prime Minister for four years what can be said now of his legacy in leadership what was he able to achieve during that time. A lot of people say he brought some sense of stability when he was in the unity government because when he joined into government. Do we have you heard you may have gone quiet. Not because weve lost two possibly but possibly i think we have i think we have lost our room and so we hope to get back on the line from the zimbabwean capital harare in a short while in the meantime we do have a report about morgan trying to rise above his Opposition Leader who has died at the age of sixty five after a battle with colon cancer in fact with a report. To his supporters more goodrichs tunket i was a man who challenge some of his long time leader Robert Mugabe at a time when few people day to do so but it was a long and sometimes painful journey in one thousand nine hundred nineteen good ive been a trade union leader for the Opposition Party the movement for Democratic Change in the years that followed he organized protests to try and force mugabe out of office he was beaten while in Police Custody charged with treason jailed several times and labeled a traitor by mugabe supporters. In the two thousand and eight president ial election he won the most votes but not enough to win outright. Before a second round took place his supporters were targeted in a campaign of violence the Opposition Leader put out of the president ial race in protest regional leaders and the International Community intervened after months of negotiations that i was sworn in as Prime Minister in two thousand and nine it was a temporary power sharing government but mugabe was still the president. Will be remembered fundamentally in the sense that. Some of the interview got this bill got huge huge intro doesnt it when we got there for the first term in the history of this did last. The first president. In almost the majority overall of of the diligence in that is weve been done since then to doing. That. For years later another elections took place this time in d. C. Party lost by a huge margin his critics said he had ignored the plight of the poor and got caught up in the trappings of wealth and power allegations of Party Infighting and corruption also tarnished his image some of his closest allies left accusing him of being a dictator. But in twenty seventeen the m. D. C. Alliance was formed those who had less hunger returned for me a coalition to challenge and grab at the polls. They were occasional antigovernment protests zimbabwes economy was on its knees there was a shortage of foreign currency and the government couldnt pay salaries on time the military intervened in a van by twenty seventeen and put mugabe at the house arrest and zimbabweans from all Political Parties marched together in solidarity saying mugabe must stick down eventually mcgarvey resigned and emerson when i was sworn in as president. Despite having cancer tank i supporters insisted he was a. The candidates for the twenty eight thousand elections they were confident he could defeat at the polls but he never got that chance opposition supporters states that i would be remembered as a brave man a charismatic public speaker and a symbol of resistance. While we managed to restore our connection with her in harare the end of your report there described him as a brave man and a pillar of the resistance as indeed im sure he will be remembered a man who was beaten up for his troubles who came achingly close to winning three elections really did rise to the office of Prime Minister as the garbage is in a National Unity government with Robert Mugabe i was asking you. What he was able to achieve in four years as Prime Minister what in other words will his legacy in power be in zimbabwe. When you speak to most of the supporters what they remember about those four years is that they felt there was a state of stability they were Food Shortages fuel shortages there was a lot of violence because of those elections and instead when he was forced to form this unity government with Robert Mugabe the former president it was something of stability food was not back on the shelves there were no more fuel. The u. S. Dollar was now being used and they felt that perhaps maybe having him in the getting to government help stabilize things help International Community season bob in a slightly different light willing to engage somewhat with this unity government his critics of course have said that over the years he clung onto power he refused to leave the leadership of the opposition the m. D. C. Party and that resulted in some but people criticize him for that but i think the main thing they remember now is that right in that package his bravery i remember one time when he had the final push march which was his way of trying to push her out of the garbage out of power and he was on the street leading this march and he was arrested he was badly beaten locked up for a couple of days when people first saw him since the arrest was badly badly beaten but he still carried on he still carried on despite everything he went through and also remember that a few years ago before he became sick he was approachable people could go to his house his supporters was that outside of gates he for them to come and talk to them they said he was their late old man and theres a youth sense of loss for his supporters people who say they remember him for all the good things he did he made mistakes everyone does but theyre saying for now its about remembering him remembering his legacy and of course wondering with this takes the opposition m. D. C. Party which is divided now on fastener alliance and infighting s. Of the leaders they are trying to just to take over from Morgan Tsvangirai what i wanted to take it on as you say. To what to what has transpired in zimbabwe now things of course and. Moved on Morgan Tsvangirai lived to see the end of Robert Mugabe in power he lived to see. Take his place as the new president also zanu p. F. Man who stood beside mugabe for all of his thirty eight years in power and there will be elections were promised by july what happens to the opposition in zimbabwe now the party that youve just described of morgan chang or i bitterly divided is there any credible opposition to emerson and zanu p. F. In the elections to come. Thats going to be one big thing to watch how quickly can they do knight and form a united front to challenge the rulings on a party and create an image than mega westmead happening these last few weeks some supporters of the state is very very sad while he was in hospital there were unconfirmed reports that some family members werent allowed to see him some people in the party werent allowed to see him there were unconfirmed reports that people were claiming that he was saying certain things about who should take over then it was revealed that he wasnt and the big problem now is he appointed to be Vice President took was on a coup pay Nelson Chamisa an injury and or three of them the past few weeks have been literally fighting each other over who takes over from him someone not talking jobs anymore that have been banned from the Party Headquarters so the big question now is is this party going to unite to form a credible force to challenge him a cent when i got well in terms of a big enough challenge now in the country we have many opposition parties some say even more than uncertainty but he will listen that was the only man who had so much support among of the nation supporters that has gone will the Party Members be able to keep up that support rally people to support the m. D. C. It is still the main Opposition Party because if i think they could split again which could weaken the party so a lot of things up in the air right now and i think people be watching the party closely depending a big meeting tomorrow on thursday in her eye to eye with the more things will be clarified and they maybe give some indication of how they plan tonight and who will take over from congress. Hiero thanks so much lots of valuable insight from her. In the zimbabwean capital harare and i think we can swing you over now to pretoria in south africa where i think youre able to see a live picture are you yes youre able to see now a live picture of an empty podium and a stage and a number of expectant looking journalists there waiting for a press conference to be given by jacob zuma the president of south africa in the hours now counting down to whats been promised a no confidence vote in parliament on thursday unless he comes out and he needs the call from his own party the Ruling African National congress to resign to step aside from power were waiting to bring you that press conference jacob zuma speaking from the Union Buildings in pretoria as and when it happens and meanwhile we know of course that jacob zuma has broken his silence over the growing calls for him to resign in a forty five minute Television Interview zuma described the instruction from his party the African National congress to step aside as unfair because he said hes done nothing wrong been given an ultimatum by the a. N. C. To resign by the end of the day as i said or face of vote of no confidence the first time i have the feeling that the leadership is unfair is not even helping me to understand what is it that is so critical is that they knew months does go you must have got a problem with that the a. N. C. Does not like that. That i have been in all the time and they want the fame and not defend i have said no i dont agree i dont agree with the decision. Farmer the village orens us live from algiers bureau in johannesburg farmer the tourists are difficult of course of the best of times to predict the sort of mercurial movements of jacob zuma but what do you read into the fact that hes that hes giving this statement that hes doing it at the Union Buildings in pretoria farmer the farmer there are you hearing us farmer in our bureau in johannesburg were hoping to talk to family miller but that link seems to have gone down well try and resume that in the meantime and were back again with the podium shot as the sound technician there test the microphone as i remind you we await a press conference from jacob zuma south africas president as he faces a possible vote of no parliament confidence in parliament on thursday unless as his ruling party the a. N. C. Has told him to unless he resigns beforehand well bring that to you just as soon as it happens. And well go back now to our top story of the hour the death of morgan chang. Opposition leader the former head of the movement for Democratic Change weve got lance guma on the line with us on skype pieces in darwin Radio Station journalist here in the u. K. In corby Lawrence Guma are you able to hear us its like a new great thanks so much for joining us well weve been listening to our correspondent in zimbabwe giving us whats of insight on the life of Morgan Chandler i do you think that his death is a significant blow to the political scene in zimbabwe. Or yes most definitely were looking at a new look since weve been that nukes for months for the op with this it now it has lined up another kind and read you find someone you know trying to build their profile within the country within a thirty four months its going to be a mom what. I mean the even though its the view that there. Are you dying and these and i couldnt them but the prodemocracy movement in the about where it. Is is thats the law but the opposition and yet morgan tangere i had been out of the public eye for quite a long time battling colon cancer hed been ill for a long time he was clearly physically much reduced surely they werent placing all their hopes the opposition in zimbabwe on mr chang or i had they not made preparations to fight this election to contest. The zanu p. F. Strong hold on government without a chiang rai in place. I i think to be fierce to try and get i. Some years ago you made a controversial decision to up weight except to Vice President but that was in part your right now is the Vice President and a lot of people not understand his thinking at that time but youve been listening to police and you was that unqualified and i think a lot of people thought that in that quantity that you was partly knowledge. And the Vice President given different beliefs so i think he knew that he was not going to be able to take part in these elections and in no way was my to. Take over but you know the this is a bit more confusion because it appears that the Vice President now does the part but i think i think in you and the people who are close to him knew that you know he he he was inevitably there was going to be sitting down is it fair to say do you think that given the change of power between Robert Mugabe and emerson managua and the role that the military played in that transition that. Opinion has begun to shift quite considerably among ordinary zimbabweans whilst opposition was growing to mcgarvie now there is growing support for emerson nongod growing hope for what he may do to revive the economy for what he may do in the international i as far as investors are concerned and therefore the m. D. C. As a force has become much reduced in any case. I think the problem that weve created by the opposition is that its not its you that theyve pursued was more got they must go i thought when you had the military cool last year and we got there was the move by that maybe i think the hope of this in terms of minority was getting our arms because we got the must go or were going to want but then walk next i think they missed the problem they were is i think this the fact that the message to food at the system because the same system that keep that in power is the same system that is in power for right now but in terms of good move for was not going to go up i dont think that can be discounted you know that that is if it is all it is inevitable. Well will benefit from that they would real people what does that what change then bob when they get tired of being sick and tired and i think they the thinking is that anyone apart from that it will do and i think the number is the least been a big thing from that but the morgan sunday night. Just add to that neither the problem the op with since they have been missed the problem that they go in now that this is the person who was this i mean it wouldnt be exaggerating to see him get i was actually the guy that the m. D. C. And that is the biggest problem that they have not the gate not how do you think that is placement and get them to the level that that i was at ok lance come up many thanks for your time there isnt bob when john is based here in the u. K. Speak to us on skype. And back to that empty podium shot its gripping television you have to admit were waiting. For a statement or a press conference given by South African president jacob zuma promised to us twenty minutes ago hes late we will bring that to y

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