Says the staff were injured at their office and in their homes washington says have and have failed in its obligation to protect diplomats on its territory. Those are the headlines the news continues here on aljazeera after inside story so stay with us. In control of catalonia spain pushes back fire in the government and the police but will that simply exacerbate catalans ambitions to split what happens next this is inside story. And welcome to inside story in less than twenty four hours catalonia has declared independence spain has responded by stripping the region of its autonomy and taking control of its government and police the spanish Prime Minister dismissed calends leaders including carlos pajama now the Prime MinisterMariano Rajoy called for a snap election in the region on december twenty first and handed over catalonia is reins to spains deputy Prime Minister soraya cygnus death santa maria. Used to be made of maybe dust again most of them with the first measures that have been tossed out the following to depose the president of the council on government the position of the Deputy President and all of the members of the council on government we will also abolish the delegation abroad known as the embassies except in brussels and the secretary general of the council on police will also be suspended while several thousand people have been taking part in protests unity rally in madrid pro separatist supporters say theyll continue their fight for Catalonia Autonomy regardless the independence secularization has not only been rejected within spain several countries including europe the European Union itself and the United States have all said they wont recognize an independent catalonia catalans dismiss leader has said he wants a democratic opposition to the takeover by the Spanish Government without force or violence and what this. Game and that citizens you all understand the period which it just started is one that we must continue defending with stability and peaceful commitment your actions are the reflection of a mature country that knows that the rection it wishes to follow we have to continue we have to persevered with that attitude that will help us succeed without violence and without insult being inclusive respecting people symbols opinions and the protests of those catalogs that disagree with what the majority in parliament have decided so lets bring in our guests and first in barcelona we have enrique lets say dick hell of sr Professor Emeritus at the university of barcelona in madrid we have spanish writer and political Analyst Daniel that guest gone and bruce belgium via skype luke that leg and health a Senior Researcher at the institute for European Studies welcome to you all and im going to begin by asking each of you to answer as quickly as possible if you have any idea what happens next and wreak. Its extremely hard to say the. Government has taken legal control of the region the president two thirty this afternoon implied that he was going to push back in other words if there was a situation of two governments in a confrontation daniel to you what happens next well i think that this is very difficult to say i hope that. When the state can. Return to look at iran at a legality as soon as possible and i think the election for twenty first. For doing so and look over to you what what happens but i think we are in a very difficult dynamic this moment so anything is possible but basically there will be a confrontation between the catalan or should i say the former Catalan Government and the madrid government and it will all depend on how. Often i set a goal if there will be some use of force or not and the response of. The government of catalonia in reaction to that daniel i want to ask you weve been talking here trying to think of one time in history where government simply just handed over peacefully land into a country that wanted to separate how exactly did president putin all think this was going to end what did he have a plan b. What i think is this this bid for separation is not only illegal about this immediately made if you if you look at the figures just of the seventy members of the got the number i mean voted yes out of one hundred thirty five with their opposition absent against the advice of their lawyers survey of the coming out. This seventy members of the parliament they represent about for forty seven forty eight percent of the vote which is about a thirty percent of the population so. They were saying this is something a minority trying to impose the rights of an over a year it is is an idea of democracy which is against the rule is im not its not the only thing about legalities is some of the beauty missing well i want to ask you this inri i mean if you think about it if he had been successful if spain miraculously said sure go ahead his people would have woken up without a passport without any sort of trade deals without access to the euro they would have lost a lot of infrastructure potentially such as their electricity which is provided by madrid so what exactly in the president s mind did he think he was going to accomplish if he was successful would it not have launched your city into absolute chaos i think. Its not really a jordanian problem because its. Question of. Bluffing in poker youve got two poker players faced off and theyve been bluffing for two months straight so what is real this is not so important as what is apparent. Independent tests of managed to construct a narrative thats much more efficient than anything the Spanish Government has put together spanish spokesmen have been surprisingly. Reticent. Creating an effective description all theyve done is talk about the law from the catalan nationalist point of view what counts is the people on the street theyve made their own revolutionary law and theyre Going Forward with it so look over to you the press the Prime Minister now has sort of in a very difficult position is boxed in is he not i mean if the leaders wont simply go away in catalonia is he going to send in the tanks what does he do. Once again its difficult to predict what is going to happen and will close is going to do that the point is that from a legal point of view spain is still to be in the right position to do what it is doing and i mean its a state that is a monster decentralized and that decentralization can be turned back by article one fifty five and indeed it would be unthinkable that any country in the world would just like that give up one of its richest regions we discussed the problem then is how do you do that and how do you build your own narrative that goes against the nationalist narrative of the separatist movement. So daniel let me ask you that he lets put the legality or the illegality aside here were talking about peoples actual lives millions of people so how does roy become the leader of them again without inflicting any sort of pain so when i. And i they often said very good that they like which is that they are they of those those heroes that retire the bulk of it where do we where we have seen is. A like a push. Confrontation and i think with the former government government has to back off and that this goes back and i think its going to something that is going to be very difficult is how to manage their frustration of so many people that have believed in this in this hope no i think well let me ask you this is this is actually going to back off is that what youre saying he needs to do do you have any indication that hes going to. I think i hope so i hope this this this happens and the end of the sensibility imposes not. About by the of course we dont know and there is very complex technical. Public opinion in the situation is very tense of this at this moment but i hope. This goes. For that for the event and i hope to god i dont know so then i mean very soon restore the end of the cut that i knew it was about through to today got it in that we got. It and more diverse spain now and enrique i want to ask you this because again were everyones talk about legality but were not talking about legality were talking about we are now at the brink they have had these theyve been bluffing as you say in poker so now at some point someones going to have to show their cards are you getting a sense there in barcelona that people are prepared for whatever that could be since nobody knows whats going to happen i dont. Know there is great uncertainty to begin to be doubts but the brics mn ship continues puts them on has basically challenge again the rumor on the radio as i was coming to this. Place like a balloon out of the film was that. The money was going to announce elections for the twentieth of december as opposed to the twenty first which are the ones that roughly is going talking in other words from here it still remains from an independent this point of view in your face not clear so let me ask you this because if they do if this stretches out and they do compete in the elections or it goes on for months do you think the economic to potential Economic Impact of forming your own country is widely understood by the people and this is to look. Well in any case there is indeed very strong Economic Impact first of all whole catalonia itself weve seen all the companies that are moving their seeds out of bus alone because i think it will damage also the whole of the spanish economy and perhaps even the whole of europe because spain is connected to the rest of europe by the ability to sions and not at least nine by the euro so there is indeed a very big economic reality that has to be considered and and as far as i can see that has not been really on the agenda of the narrative for going independent and forming a new state that any i want to ask you this if people could blame the two currently are for the standoff that this is not a new issue this is been going on for a very long time how did we get here. Well thats thats a very difficult question that something which is very strange is how around two thousand and twelve independent this sentiment increased no i think this was this was mostly a top down idea because of course the harbin tension son i dont know has always had a strong identity but it was. Qatar national have always tended to be to believe in their mothers new station of spain they were more or less the engine something that brought spain closer closer to europe and i think with the economic crisis and also when the with the impact of the economic crisis in the political system some some part of qatar nationalist decided well we we europe is fragile spain is not a very good mark at this moment we have. This sentiment of grievance of things like the the started and we are going to try try to do this and i think at the end if you think about it. This is this has resulted in now in a loss of autonomy in Economic Loss in reputational damage. In the exciter excels the rate in tensions inside the inside the population so i think this this really has has backfired and i think thats something we will have to think about when we. Later but this may be guided to months by by emotions and by and successful well let me ask you this and i want to put this to all three of you if you could please answer as quickly as simply as possible is it too late for dialogue could they really Start Talking and what would that look like for you expect would be in a stronger position now to make the first move and say lets stop lets talk to you first on that and that ill get all three of you to answer that please. The Spanish Government considers. But its in such a strong position it doesnt really have to dialogue it considers its try to not understand the Catalan Government in. Self example i dont know how to put it considers that. It has done everything it could by its own self for crime legislation to possibly accommodate the spaniards so it continues to be. A standoff neither will go look will they talk thats good yeah i dont think so. Look i had to really have to talking in the long run because dialogue will be the only way to get out of the situation between need an agenda for the dialogue and the way i see it is that we have to do things on the table no one and that it has to be prepared to reform itself into a truly federal state that gives a lot of autonomy not to certain regions but all regions in spain and secondly. The Catalan Government or representatives really have to make sure that they accept the idea of being a Regional State within a state and maybe we can add a third dimension to that that is that in europe in the European Union we have to rethink the place of National Regions in the governance structure in brussels daniel well they talk i think at the end there will be in their will they will have to talk i think the important thing is that there the rule of law is established and after that i think that spain has to be generous and. The rights of minorities have to be protected but. After this we have to do to understand that this is an opportunity and a duty to reform spain so i think i think the rule of law has to has to has to win and then i dont of creativity and. Willingness to reform have to have to be in place now softer now and rick i want to ask you this question it seems to me that the elections could be just from an outsiders perspective these elections if madrid and barcelona and the leaders could agree that yes these elections will be free and fair and lets find out what the majority of people what we didnt really get that sense from the vote for independence could this be a way for everyone to save face and to actually decide the issue well which lamont had a chance to accept confronting alexion himself and he finally did not to do it so i dont see an easy way out meaning that most of the reasonable proposals that have come from people around the conflict on the spanish side on the catalan side have ended up getting nowhere and i see an extraordinary stubbornness on the part in bennetts movement it sees that it has done nothing wrong and so it therefore is willing to push the struggle for the long term. The government is not willing to has not shown itself willing to yield on anything except. The baby so i dont see any way out of this look i want to ask you this questions about the European Union they have not shown any willingness to intervene theyve sided with the Spanish Government they said its not their place to mediate could somebody step in and mediate and if so who. Well i can truly stupid point of view each has no mandate to intervene because this is strictly sensible and unilateral for us and it has no instruments so the only thing that could happen and that probably is already happening is that behind the scenes some influential persons are trying to to mediate that officially there is no place at this moment for the e. U. To do anything you know catalonia is not alone across the world you see people who have in different parts of the world said we maybe once independence as well the fact that the entire world has sided basically with oil what message do you think that sends and i want to send this to you daniel what message does that send to people across the globe who might be thinking along the same lines as the catalans. Well i think it. Makes us think how populous some nationalism sometimes we think nationalism is i think of the past but it can be reactivated. So it serves as that the past is never far behind and also the dangers of populists politics because it is creates a fracture since in Society Everything becomes. Black and white and i think its better to the thing about. How pluralism and the liberal destructors all of us to have these conflicts of interest and different sensibilities. They can be negotiated in you know in a better way so i think in many ways the cut on the some this is this this independent this movement of. Is similar to brics it or two other. Moments that have are an element of taking back control. That is so delusional in some ways but were seeing this across a lot as you just mentioned this national is a look at i want to ask you about this catalonia is just another version of what weve seen with the election of donald trump with rex it does this continue to snowball basically not just in europe like around the globe. Well it is true that there is a populist a dimension in what is happening both in the brics its got a long year but at the bottom line is that the right for sell a determination of people. Has to be respected and this is mentioned in the un charter but this only makes sense if youre real talking about situations where lets say the human rights are in danger or Something Like that for the rest it its a bit of was a strange thing that people everywhere tend to say well we want to be independent we will do we are better off on our own and surprisingly or not supply need this is happens this happens the most in rich regions or rich countries. Because there is a dimension of solidarity with the rest of the country and that is of course something which is difficult to do. I mean i think the president just said this morning or yesterday that he doesnt want to end up treating usually ninety five members and that is what could happen if everybody starts thinking when we are on our own it will go at the end effect is of course that with globalization this is a delusion this is not true that we are working real or living in a globalized world and it is integration thats real make a scope that youre going to say she and rick i want to ask you about his thoughts on that what do you think is this just another version of brechts it that were seeing here is this going to continue of the President Donald Trump brecks it now catalonia no i dont think so i mean in one sense it it in one sense it is just like the election in the say in the czech republic. Is a general rejection of old style politics. Very clearly in the society both for independent tests and for. Unionists or spanish nationalists o