Says the number for refugees who fled violence in me and maher has risen to five hundred eighty two thousand global body released drone video to highlight the scale of the mass exodus. To bangladesh those are the headlines on aljazeera inside story is coming up next stay with us. Sebastien kurtz declares victory in austria as National Election which reveals a swing to the right so where will the socalled one that could take austria what this is bra is named for europe this is inside story. Hello welcome to the show im sam is a than now the results from austria as National Election are in and it looks like Sebastian Kurtz is poised to become the worlds youngest head of government declared victory after his conservative Peoples Party won more than thirty one percent of the vote it wasnt enough for a simple majority to form a Coalition Government that marriage is expected to be a union between his party and the second far right Freedom Party during the campaign kurds adopted a tough stance against refugees and immigration in his victory speech talked about his mandate. And. I have a big request for you used today to celebrate you all have enjoyed through hard work and dedication at the same time i need to tell you that to more to work starts we did not just run to win the elections we did so to bring austria back to the top we ran in this election to achieve real change. As we mentioned earlier kurds will need to form that coalition but those talks could prove difficult for the one the kid the head of the far right Freedom Party accuse kurtz of coopting his message during the campaign. Months here. And now well see if they really mean it honestly or seriously if they are even willing to have honestly go she is with us or not and im telling you you can rely on one thing we are going to stay true to ourselves your friends we are going to stay true to the austrian people. Lets bring our guests into the show we have in lancaster in the United Kingdom allison fiddler professor of german and austrian studies shes also the author of an upcoming book the art of resisting cultural protest against the austrian far right and on skype from london Matthew Goodwin senior visiting fellow at Chatham House is Europe Program good to have you with us lets start with alice and then how did a country which was one of the most welcoming to refugees a couple of years ago vs so much to the right so quickly. Whether its been quite so quick is of course debatable its true of course austria did welcome in. Large numbers of refugees about the third i think placed in europe in terms of per capita the number of refugees coming through. And you know have been i think very welcoming towards Asylum Seekers i think this isnt something that has just happened however there is a an undercurrent you can look back to im sure well be talking about this more but back to the millennial elections one thousand nine hundred thousand when your kaisers Freedom Party came into coalition with the austrian peoples government and back then too there were there was a lot of mileage made of if you like anti immigrant rhetoric. Well things have changed a bit since then havent they matthew according to the australian governments two thousand and seventeen integration report which i read up immigration to austria drop dramatically last year with the fall in the silent applications of more than fifty percent why was there so much focus during the Election Campaign then on immigration well i think. The main concern among austrians really following the eruption of the refugee crisis in twenty fifteen and we saw a very concerted attempt a lot of the center right leaders sebastien curts to earth back to early. Target. By talking very tough on that refugee issue if you just think about some of the policies so thats how it advocated. The pills apparently to more than just the far right voters right looks like hes captured people who may not have previously aligned themselves with the far right. Well hes held up the center right vote the austrian Peoples Party votes he will also attracted some nonvoters but austria instinctively is quite a conservative country we know that austrians considered the European Unions handling of the refugee crisis to be one of its greatest failures which we discovered in a survey at Chatham House cuts for example talks of slashing benefits from my currency move the army on to the southern border to patrol the borders with police he talked about closing islamic schools for children. Cursing his party oversaw. The. Need that anybody can be online for wearing. Make space covering. Clothing in public and all of this was part of an attempt to really occupy that radical right space so i think kurtz came into this election with a very Clear Strategy including its paid off he has come in with a very Clear Strategy in a sense alison has he has stolen some of the ground from the peoples from the Freedom Party absolutely and of course hes been rebuked for so doing by the leader of the Freedom Party has caused damage to after. Campaign posters call him the four denker you know the man we thought about these things beforehand so the author has this quite. Openly at keast put could of having taken some of his policies on. Of course i suppose you know if we get a coalition between these two parties then to some extent. Cookes will have done just that has worked for him but it doesnt look like that and i think stratosphere and been a bit aggrieved that you know their their political. If you like their campaigning points are being taken from them and championed by one of the established parties however better the Freedom Party may be about what the Peoples Party leader has been saying and doing matthew will agree there is no going back this is a country that has shifted towards the right even if by some miracle they work out a coalition with the social democrats rather than the Freedom Party. Austria like many of the european states has moved decisively to the right thats without question there are some outliers macron in france but of course in the first round the story before you send anti e. U. Candidates Jeremy Corbyn in britain perhaps is some better than some expected but the general story you are as reflected in austria is on the continent that is moving to the right and crucially lets look not lose sight of one Important Development you know really for the first time in years the center left in austria house has appeared to at least agree to discuss with the radical right Freedom Party the possibility of forming an alliance and it will act like its not likely to happen simply crossing that well i to even discuss that possibility with the graphical right i think is an important moment in our School European politics and its something definitely to be looked at in terms of where the continent is going as well as austria allison when we try and look ahead its important to remember of course curts has been in power hes held positions as the foreign minister minister of integration austria does have an Integration Law which for the first time included legal standards for what constitutes integration and a legally binding integration declaration which applicants had to sign and so on what sort of impact has that had on the whole integration and immigration situation in austria. I dont know about these new laws but if you look at citizenship tests in austria theyve been quite clear about you know what they wish from people becoming austrian whether theyre from the middle east or elsewhere but as has been referred to them its sort of coming at a time when with the full facial veil ban its not just the burka theyre clamping down on anybody with you know fancy dress costumes on that mask their face is part of a general if you like package of things that are looking to be more anti. Anti foreigners. Yes well see you know who ends up being in the coalition as matthew just pointed out its unlikely that the social democrats will do so and and the unthinkable has happened that they havent ruled it out. Ninety nine two thousand the austrian Peoples Party circles his party ruled out a coalition with the Freedom Party but it then renee got on that and and did actually form a coalition so. If you break it down alison i mean to hear the breaking down for us what does that mean in terms of the sort of direction or policies we can expect from austria Going Forward allison are we going to see a austria thats more insular closed and less enthusiastic about the you. Know what is the ultimate leamy. Well of course austria takes on the presidency in the second half of two thousand and eighteen so itll get fairly critical then. Last year when we had a protracted attempt to elect austrian president we saw a kind of rallying of if you if you like really pro your sentiment in that the the winner of that contest closely fought though it was alexander funded baron campaigned on a platform of looking after austrians reputation and that came really as as a reaction to what was going on in britain with brecks it because austria could see that coming out of the e. U. Wasnt a great idea. Whether thats going to change remains to be seen last year who for that thats the ally of course of plasters in the Freedom Party his right hand man. He had initially said that he made anti e. U. Noises but then said that the people must decide to that would go to a referendum. Maybe thats what thats the way things will go perhaps they will have a referendum in austria to. Be seen but look at things from the outside in as well matthew how do you think those euro diplomats in brussels are going to be watching viewing whats happened in vienna. I suspect that that plate this is the other evidence of the strength of oculus in austria i think theyll look at the freedom vote with a party attracting more than one in full voters as being the same kind of challenge so the European Union project has Marine Le Pen any problems with this in the netherlands but i think theyll also view this perhaps is as likely to turn up the volume all not a position to how the e. U. Has managed the refugee crisis i suspect hungary in poland and other states in central and Eastern Europe will probably be celebrating the result because of its position on the refugee issue i think theyll be feeling as though theyve got one more person in that coal and trying to push back against how the e. U. Has managed that crisis trying to toughen up the external all of the n. G. O. S. Patrolling the met coming up with a more conservative response if you like on that issue so i think the e. U. Will be a lot of what we dont see how it is an imposition of those diplomatic sanctions that we saw in two thousand when the European Union really i think. Many actually overreacted in its response that the Freedom Party joining the coalition then. Commissioned a report to ensure that human rights to being up here no i dont think well see anything like that this time around which again shows us how far your travel im glad that you mentioned that Matthew Allison the Freedom Party as both of you are now mentioned you know they have been in a Coalition Government before the early two thousands. Why is there a feeling this time that the country is really on the verge of this is different. Well firstly to go back to the issue of you know whether there will be International Conservation matties obviously right on this that its unthinkable i think that they. Will now muscle in and start to slap down austria possibly in part because in so many of the Member States there are equivalent successes for the far right so everybodys busy looking at their own getting their own house in order or not so i think its unlikely that. Austria will be deemed to be you know have to be brought back into line whats changed you know obviously weve got the effects of the refugee crisis if its all i dont know what else has changed if you asked and theyve been polls suggesting that you know forty five percent of austrians think that theyre less well off economically and they need somebody to sort this out so the economic agenda lower taxes this is of course another promise of courts you know are also on the on the menu its not just a immigration backlash. I cant really put a finger on you know what might have changed in society what i feel sure will happen though perhaps to a lesser lesser extent that it did last time is that there will be domestic protest there has already been impromptu protests yesterday on the streets in vienna already there are petitions circulating to try to stop a coalition between the the black and the blue or between the turquoise and the blue as we must say. Because of change the party colors as well as a few other things or im glad you mentioned the protests lets bring into the show at this point joining us from vienna alexis new birdies host of radio africa t. V. Good to have you with us were talking about perhaps the backlash within austria do you see much of an attempt to Block Coalition forming. We think here in new vienna. Everything is still being open. To depend on the negotiation of the building of the government because you cannot see all considerations are complicated. There are some difficulties about the coalition of course. When to approve and block they make a coalition they have their very big. Fired according to the topics because all of them that are said the group is saying there is. The black one they stated their own topics they thought of their own topics these minutes if they make up a coalition with them they will not be able to bring them their topics in the in the program of the government so the red one also did their side in the beginning to say they were not populated with people who are setting ahead against. Open union it is here now open it is that big suspense because not with the north what would happen theres a big suspense no one knows what happens matthew mentioned then the push back from the e. U. In the early two thousand against the last government when the Freedom Party played a role we dont expect that do expect any formal pushback from the e. U. Atoll. I think its unlikely to see a big mobilization against austria largely because the e. U. To be blunt has bigger fish to fry and its a constant of the us really still trying to encourage that very fragile Economic Growth to come through a bit more fully and also you know to try and get to grips with some of those sentiments that we just heard about but much of Southern Europe in particular is really not feeling much of the economic pick up over the last year and a half and we need to throw in a lingering refugee crisis and perhaps it negotiations the election it simply isnt going to impose itself on the agenda in the same way that the austrian politics did you know years it maybe it also is one of the reasons i think there are also the fact that the Political Landscape in europe has changed compared to the two thousand so i mean the early two thousand. The rise of the fall right in other places has been a notable fact while i was. Saying also you know apart from that swim to the right i would say whats changed has been a collapse of support for the last in two thousand and thirteen fifteen governments in the e. U. Had center left parties in the this year currently only six of the twenty eight governments in the European Union have left way parties in them and most of those are what we would call periphery states like molds or imports ugle so i think when you look at the general direction of europe the center left has been struggling under center right and the populist right in general terms of be doing quite well in austria. Although there are ideological differences alison is one way of looking at whats been happening across europe whether its you know kurds in austria the rise of micron in france the brigs it. Vote could we draw a common sort of anti establishment is a line through all of this. You know its tempting to do so but i think its a bit ironic really because its only in the case of austria i mean this is still establishment this is a the austrian Peoples Party which is formed grand coalitions on and off its part of the old system its just. This whole thing is is being different from the old boys garbage least thats how he seems to have sold himself. Exactly but it is the we will find out but no just changing your party coat color and dumping yourself a movement instead of a party isnt isnt really enough to. To prove that this is something new. You know our march is a new party this isnt in austria its its an old party thats giving itself a make over and you can see this in other countries too of course. Not least in our own but is he really something new hes a hes a young. Career politician whos been in politics since it was twenty four going thirty one now and hes certainly garnered a lot of support for his youth and vitality and energy and and i think actually to some extent to his ability to st