Playfulness, gaiety, sarcasm, irony, and so on. This, it seems to me, is the best thing that was in the oktankovsky theater here in twenties, thirties. Evgeniy vladimirovich, thats what you think, students who, applicants who enter your institute, who dream of studying there, they know well the person whose name the institute bears. Of course, who boris vasilyevich shchukin is, they dont know about this man. Little has been written and little is known, except for those photographs that we showed, and probably also a photograph of vladimir ilyevich lenin, which he played, will appear, thats all, i began to look for some video recordings to find shchyukin, except for a tiny split second, when he plays tortaglia, when he says one phrase in yegor baluchev there is no video cinema. Among the artists of the twenties and thirties, who were brilliant in their expressions, acting, and about whom we have forgotten. When we talk about vakhtangov, for example, the widow Nadezhda Mikhailovna wondered why the name of vakhtangov was so bright in the sixties, why it sounds, and the answer was found from his grandson when we opened the monument in 2000, he said, i now understand why vakhtangovs name sounds because this comes from his students, and the name shchyukin also rings loudly today from his students, from the fact that we study at the shchyukin school, and the rest, those speculations, there is no one to ask, the books have not been written, nothing has been written, i i can say that this actor is extraordinary. Articles about bulychev, who was in amkhat and was in the akhtangov theater, where, despite the grandeur of leonidov, shchukin is presented most highly, whether this is true or not, i dont know, but this is it remains in history, the person is unusually talented, because tartaglia plays so furiously and so brilliantly on the one hand. On the other hand , buluchev needs to have talent of such a crazy range, in general, shchukin is a supporter of the moscow art theater, but how did it happen then that he ended up in the vakhtangov theater . He didnt get into the theater; vakhtangovs theater didnt exist then, there was only the third mkhat studio, which was directed by vakhtangov, the word mkhat is also written there, well, the boy who came from kashira, he first, who played there in the amateur theater, he played there in an amateur theater, was there one of the best, the best artist, when he graduated from a Vocational School in moscow, his railway, and his uncle, he was also some kind of slave. Was written, i probably wont say the exact phrase, but its meaning is that my brother in talent, grandson, in my opinion, brother, or grandson, in talent, that is, he , yes, he defined him as very a talented person, kochalov, and can you imagine what kachalov is, in the twenties and thirties, that was all, and he went pumping, and this boy, who. Wandered around moscow, came to work in kashira, and he couldnt take root there, because it was already cramped for him, because he lacked the cultural environment in which he immersed himself, he missed these theaters, well, what kind of amateur theater is this in kashira, where he also played, he worked this assistant driver, traveled on these trains, and his dream was andrei platonov, an assistant train driver, and he still returned to moscow and. Probably he was walking along one of the streets, it was written that there was a reception at the mkhat iigo studio, the head of the shift workers there, he came there, signed up to show himself, but vakhtangov is really one of the first students and, well, sulerzhitsky vakhtangov these are the people who brought stanislavskys system to life, when he showed up at vakhtangovs studio, vakhtangov was not at the show, it was the studio members who accepted shchukin, and vakhtango. Treated shchukin, well, he saw, he saw, well , a man came, well, he said, well, show me what you can, and he sat through it, he proved, he wrote there in his hand that he saw vakhtangovs talent, he, hes a detailed person, hes very, he , when he came somewhere, he wrote everything down, he had tatianas wonderful family, he was such a modest person, this is a story. His love for shukhmina, this is his wife, and later shukhmina shchyukina, when they had, well, a slightly higher social position, and he came, he didnt do anything, even he couldnt confess his love, it was she who determined that he was in he was in love with her, she brought him, he was a very modest person, extraordinary, so they lived their whole lives, they had egor, this son is wonderful, and he writes to him that. You cant deceive adults, you cant go out on street, he writes a whole sheet of paper for him, how he should behave, that he should not take advantage of the benefits of those who do, here he is to his son, he was an amazing person, we continue, this is the podcast life of the remarkable, i am with you, its leading writer alexey varlamov, the rector is visiting me. This year, it was filmed in 1937 and 1938, which means, in total, so to speak, 20 years, but what was happening at that time in the country in 1937 and 1938, its probably pointless here now to tell you, everyone has a very big responsibility, because the revolution was made by lenin, stalin, the people, and no one from lenins inner circle, in fact, by that time they were either pushed aside, like krupskaya. Gorky saw that he looked like lenin, back in 1932, when they were rehearsing there and balychev was rehearsing, he told him that you look like lenin, and ruben simonov, it stuck with him somewhere , when. Simonov was looking for an artist to play the role of lenin, he remembered gorkys phrase and offered this role to shchyukin, yeah, and the first. Exit, it was in the akhtangov theater, a man with a gun, a man with a gun, it was, they say, it was some kind of bomb effect, when lenin came out on stage when, specially with the artist, they made a long corridor so that lenin, who walks with a long gait along the corridor of smolny, then shadrin in the role of tolchan comes out to meet him for some tea, nowhere to get boiling water, theres no comrade who can tell him. And he takes him to the other side, they say it was some kind of, well, the effect of an exploding bomb, the appearance of lenin on stage, when they started filming this film, they invited him, but the deadline was so short that they filmed around the clock, and shchukin was also forced to play in the repertoire that he had to play, it was all like that, and responsibility, thats what were talking about. And he writes in these books what if it doesnt work out . Lets see what happened, a fragment from the film lenin in october have you seen lenin, write what he is like . Growth, what to do . Whats wrong with that . What to do . Is there something written . Lets go to bed . Yes, yes, to sleep, in fact, i had a feeling now, when i watched this film, that this was some kind of fig in my pocket, that this was some kind of joke, that lenin looked there, well, so funny, its so similar to all these jokes about lenin that we told that i dont really understand how it was possible to take this picture and this role seriously then . You know, i think that here we still need. Of course, of course, of course, this was not yet worked out, because in the next part of, say, the trilogy after a while, the kremlin chimes, lenin is still the main one there, and stalin is very second. Lenin was always played by peoples artists of the ussr, major actors, and the role of stalin there was not very good, i think that the hero of your, so to speak, book, Mikhail Ivanovich bulgakov, may also be. It was acquired, because when the revolution happened, he came to moscow around these years, returned from kashir, i cant tell you the exact dates now, he lived in the poveletsk area. To the studio on mansurovsky lane he walked, he had to work during the day to earn his living, because he had to pay for the studio, its also not free, but how, but how, how did they pay everything for the studio, this its not easy, its not just like that for you, either bring a log to light the stove, or something else, ishchukin worked during the day, came there at night, and thats only later. All the time they thought that he was slandering himself for so that he couldnt complain about Something Like that, he was always feeling some kind of malaise, he was always he was pinched, well, there were no such clinics where you could come and check all this, that is , the heart was already making itself known, and the heart was making itself known, it tingles, it aches, it burns, but he still overcomes, and even these days, you spend your nights filming, and it remains to be seen what will come of it. This is the result that he fell asleep and did not wake up, what a short life he lived, before his death he read a paradox about an actor, thats how it is, it was he who had a paradox about an actor , he opened this book, he did this, he lived only in the theater, he didnt have any another life, all his correspondence is only about the theater, only empathy that here he is, he walked and thought about how he could play the mayor, because he was preparing it. The premiere was supposed to take place, something he didnt have it there and there was Something Like that, he walked around, looked for speech, he looked for a manner of speaking, he invented it for himself, yes we continue, this is the podcast life of the wonderful, im with you, its leading writer alexey varlamov, visiting i am the rector of the Shchukin Theater Institute evgeniy vladimirovich knyazev and. In the vakhtangov theater zoykinas apartment and as far as i understand you played in this play, which was already revived there when in the nineties, in the 2000s, it was staged, yes, it was staged, and you just played balyaninov, yes, thats what you could say about this role, each theater has its own generations, borisova has ulyanovs generation, maksakova and another lonova have their own generation, zoykas apartment is the colossal success of this performance, hes such a big Boris Nikolaevich not believes, but you dont know, but im really imposing my opinion that you will say that Great Success is beyond any doubt, theres even. Theres no need to argue about the performance, i think about the work of evgeniy vladimirovich that its one of, so to speak, the keys to this success, and such a one hundred percent fit into the image of the old prince, yes i have a more restrained attitude towards the performance, to be honest, well, nevertheless, what right do i have to disagree with the audience , with the opinion of some of the critics and so on. And i, as a participant this performance, i cant talk about the performance itself, but there is something in this performance that makes the audience become embedded in the fabric of this performance, and firstly in tolstoy, then in myself, i myself love behind the scenes watch your colleagues, how they play, how they change. From performance to performance, and the most amazing thing for me is that the performance ends at 12 00 at night, by this time not a Single Person, well, maybe someone, as if there is no such performance from which people do not leave, the full hall leaves, and until the applause ends, not a Single Person leaves, and i understand that this performance made some kind of. Indelible impression on the viewer, it left a mark for many years, from three performances , which you listed, i most loved the queen of spades staged in fomenko, even then there was still a pissy, he wrote performances about it, and i would add to these three, look, to these three performances i would add another wonderful performance without guilt , guilty, i think this is the best performance flomenka at the vaktangovo theater. It s just me here and you played in it, yes, i played the most unknown, yes, and the queen of spades, because the queen of spades, as far as i understand, you still have a oneman show, right . Oh, i after that, i when, when the play had already left the repertoire, he i already made the queen of spades as a oneman show, but in general it was yes, this is this, these are two completely different things, because this is a dramatic performance, here for hall but the philharmonic is needed, they suggested that i make a program, and there they chose, chose and said but you can read the queen of spades, i said, no, i was playing, but to read, these are completely different things, and then somehow it stuck, suddenly they called from the wedge, and from the wedge, from the tchaikovsky museum, they said, but we will do, now we have. There will be such a concert, where there will be works by pushkin to the music of tchaikovsky, so you can read something from anegin or from the queen of spades, thats what he has a work for, i thought, let me try a chapter of some kind from the queen of spades piece, great, they got it liza in pennies, germana in dancing, well, in general , they collected all the genres associated with. And there i tried to read for the first time without playing the queen of spades, and it seemed to me from the reception that this could be, then i decided to learn, already learn the whole work, now i play with great pleasure, it is in great demand today, oddly enough, it turns out, because now there are also many people who are trying to beat fate. Yes, and pushkin wrote a case, a fairy tale, an anecdote, an anecdote about three cards, strongly influenced the imagination. To me it seems that today we remembered boris vasilyevich shchukin very well, we talked about your work, but this is completely unnecessary. Lets talk a little more about shchukin, something or about the school, our school too, maybe potential applicants are watching us, every person is born with a thirst for creativity. To get to this point, we live much easier today, no one is starving, no one suffers, well, maybe not everyone eats there. Some salts, but there are no hungry people, compared to the same twenties and thirties for years, when people had to survive, when he was a very rich man, because he had two coats, yeah, a demo season and a winter one, and so everyone wore one, so if you have the passion to engage in this profession, and this is me, disfigurement, it is the person himself who comes, he will tell you that he is coming, but those who come are us. i never argue with Boris Nikolaevich who go to the shchepkin institute, i dont stop anyone who at first treats us well, but then they say we want to shchepkinsky school, go, because each person determines his own destiny, and since we have a graft of the vakhtangov theater, our theater exists only due to, or despite, the fact that for all these long years. Our theater, when there were two people there, tripled, other theaters split into two, got upset, but we never divided, when we tried to stick to one school, even when a very Famous Artist came to etush and said that i want to teach with you, he said, great, come work for us, but only i would like change the school, he said, oh no, you will work for us at the school we used, which we received from the hands of vakhtan. Hamlet, and tomorrow you will have a second gravedigger, are you ready to play not hamlet, a second gravedigger, if you are ready, then yes , then you can, so to speak, for the rest of your life, associate yourself with the scenes, with the theater and with intrigues, with the fact that you will not have roles for some time, for some time you will have less money than your neighbor in makeup borna, film roles and so on, if you adore this smell of the scenes, then you. And anywhere, yes, here too we try to preserve, so to speak, our traditions, developing them, and to live in these small but differently existing groups, in some kind of unity with their own problems and, but, but here we stand and hold on, and we have been holding on to our school for more than 200 years, we are historical in this sense. Year is 110 years old, also a lot, very, of course, of course, and boris vasilyevich shchukin is 130 years old, we have such a double anniversary, so its like we are also on this anniversary, it was also possible for us to survive all these difficult years, not not simple, but it is possible, and this profession, it, if, as kruchenina said, without the guilt of the guilty, how do you feel . Is acting an art or a craft . What it is . So rarely our profession and performances become art, but when this happens, you are ready to give everything for this, probably, because you succeeded, and so, while there, if there are performances, you are an ordinary person, some kind of broadcaster, between lermontov and the auditorium , you endure there, but suddenly. Something happens when the auditorium, as someone once said, when, regardless of class, social status, financial status, nothing, when suddenly the same artists are the same, and you influence them, suddenly they begin to live with the same breath, with the same feelings, then, probably, this is art, thank you very much, this conversation, this there was a podcast life of the remarkable, our guests were two rectors, two wonderful theater people, evgeniy vladimirovich knyazev, peoples artist of russia, rector. Theater institute named after shchukin, which we talked about today, and boris theaters nikolaevich lyubimov, rector of the shchepkin higher theater school, we were also interviewed by the rector of the literary institute. Yes, we figured out three rectors here. Thank you. Good morning to everyone who is celebrating this day along with the first. Channel with you irina morumsova on the calendar may 11, saturday the finale of the may long weekend. Saturday and sunday are ahead, during which we need to accomplish a lot of what was planned for the holidays, but did not work out. We also have extensive plans. Lets take a look at a variety of planetariums in our country. After lets come down to earth and find out whats so smart about a smart home. Well teach the dog not to beg at the table, well go mushroom hunting, and in may well actually have some. And. Theres a lot more in our plans, and there are travels, in general, stay with us, but lets start , as always, with a warmup together with the president of the jumping fitness federation, ekaterina kaspirovich. Good morning. Jumping fitness or jumping on mini trampolines helps you lose weight and increase the production of joy hormones. But its better to do it before such a workout. Exercise on balance, this, by the way, is useful for everyone. Join us, we will practice on the floor. Feet shoulderwidth apart, knees slightly bent. Raise your shin and hold your foot with your hand. We stand for about 5 seconds. We try not to stagger, in order to maintain balance, we move our other hand to the side. We change the leg. If you succeed, try to complicate the exercise. We bend our leg, and now we lean forward and try to touch the floor with our free hand. Lets get up. This exercise will help strengthen your legs, buttocks and back muscles. You will also learn to balance. 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