, well, so shes on the belt, so thats it, leader. Now youre going to go to the Technical Department of your colleagues , stop the shop, youre interfering with the work, do you understand everything . I got it, come on, i got it, come on, do it, thats it, calm, calm, everything s agreed, itll open, everything will be fine, i told you, i wont tell you anything else, as soon as i take it ill close your shalman on my mothers revision, i cant even finish reading at least one beer cap, will you go according to the article, Mother Teresa saw it, i understand, at night i had a bruise, did you sell cognac through the window . Well, he got me wrong, comrade policeman, thats how much he got, he let me down under the article, the devil got me in, of course its funny, how much did he pay , yes, he brought the thing, what kind, well, where did he get it, i dont know, look, its beautiful, let the drunks go, big on air game , intense fighting continues in ukraine, i cant say that today they are so intense in the gas region, but this is also not the calm before the storm, because it is clear what is happening there, israel is preparing for him, and today there is mutual shelling, mainly from israel against gaza , people are dying, but there is good news, and tomorrow president putins visit to china begins, the visit is very important, and this is one visit where , as president putin explained, he is there to agree on a multipolar world, and not on how to take action against someone else, we are not talking about concluding some kind of military alliance while the United States sends its secretary of state travel around the middle east and prepare the region for a new war, president putin goes to beijing to discuss the possibilities of peace, but one statement that really made an impression on me, but i wont say a lasting impression, but a very big one, was the statement of President Biden, who in his interview , on such a very prestigious american program, cbs 60 minutes, where he stated that the United States can calmly, simultaneously, without tension, deal with the crisis in ukraine, with the crisis in the middle east, and that the United States for this there is absolutely enough money of opportunity, and in general, he said, the United States is the most powerful power in the world, and senator chizhov, i want to tell you, is not only the most powerful power in the modern world, but the most powerful power in the entire history of mankind. And therefore what is called america and the sea. Generation, now they will be able to cope with all this , i dont know, can this be explained by some of his , well, lets say, intellectual limitations, or is this really the position of his administration, i want to tell you, senator, i dont know a lot about the United States, but i know American History quite well, this kind of statement in this form, from the president , i dont remember what you think about this, should i Pay Attention to this, or is it just. Well, i think that its hardly worth laughing at an elderly person, in any case, yes, indeed, i agree with you, neither biden nor his predecessors allowed such formulations, they talked about exclusivity, about the fact that the most. The economy in the world is everything happened, but in such a way that the americans are the greatest nation of all times, this has not happened, especially since the concept of an american nation is a rather artificial concept, taking into account, lets say, the multinational and multiracial and multireligious composition of american society. So lets not laugh, but lets think about it, because i think that the main problem here isnt even what he said, its that hes probably not the only one who thinks so, and apparently this is, after all, official his administrations position, his administrations official position, so secretary of state blinken can afford travel around the middle east, reminding him that he came as a jew. It is unlikely that this will cause great enthusiasm in the arab countries of the region; this is further confirmation that, unfortunately, the american political establishment, including the current administration, in general, has quite limited, not to say vague, but the idea of what is happening in the current changing multipolar world, and this makes the situation additionally dangerous, one might say, given the presence of the United States, that huge military and economic potential, and which is available. Well, you know, senator, again, i dont know. Everything that all the secretaries of state of the United States said, over the not so long, still more than two centuries of American History, but that s all, everything, what secretary of state blinken said, about that, that s what he wanted to achieve by saying that hes a jew, talking with arab. Leaders, the most effective from my point of view in my opinion, the american diplomat in the middle east was henry kissinger, who is also a famous jew, but it would never occur to him that he would make this argument in a conversation with arab leaders. Kissinger was not ashamed of his jewish origin, he never hid this jewish origin, but he is always not an elderly man, a man, a middleaged man, what was the goal, and you know, i also have a real feeling that people have gone crazy, yes, indeed, i can. Bet what when blinken looked at the terrorist atrocities of hamas in the early days of this situation between israel and the palestinians, the palestinians from gaza, i can imagine that the fact that he had relatives who went through concentration camps, that it kind of made him take it more personally, than most others, but actually. These kind of personal feelings, but they dont throw them in the face of their interlocutor, highranking diplomats, when the crown prince of saudi arabia, and uh, the Prime Minister, the president of egypt, or rather sissy, you could have told him you know, and we are arabs, we have a long history of oppression, oppression, and we watch every day, on the screen, what israel is doing to the peaceful arab population, i dont know whether, in general, they really already have feelings in the administration. He is much smarter than we think, or rather more cunning, perhaps, talking with the saudi crown prince, he is actually addressing an american domestic political audience. If you want, to appeal to the left wing of the democratic party, where many do not support israel, and somehow press on some honoring the country, or am i trying to be too much of a psychologist, an amateur, i think you are trying to be too much of an optimist, and in this regard i would like to refer to. A remark from the president of turkey, erdogan, who was no less than us im surprised with you, but by this phrase from blinken, who said, well, well, im quoting from memory, but what if they tell you in response that yes, but we are muslims there first and foremost, and what then, and so whats the main thing , probably still in diplomatic negotiations. Not national, ethnic origin and religion, but in general, some goals are set by those who want to establish some kind of negotiation process, how can we talk about mediation after such words, it is obvious that this is. In the current situation, according to at least impossible, and to me, of course, it was even stranger to hear this kind of statement about how, almost in his genes, he has a memory of the holocaust constitutional camps, and he named, in this context, his adoptive father , samo pizarara, who actually went through nazi concentration camps, and he. Made it out of it i have very serious conclusions for myself in life, you know what, that the United States needs to cooperate and be friends with the soviet union , this, this, unfortunately, genes are not passed on from adoptive fathers, well, apparently, apparently, this is the point, was really a very worthy person, with a really difficult life, and he really made these conclusions from this. By the way, even when his position in america was not very popular, well, we talked about interesting statements from washington, yeah, that was made very interesting statement israeli president herzog, whom i also always considered to be a normal changeable person, he stated in text, that in palestine, especially in gaza, there are no innocents, that they are all, that they are all responsible for the atrocities of hamas, and you know why, because they didnt overthrow hamas, he, well, he could have added that they, for the most part , voted for hamas at one time, which is how hamas ended up in power in gaza. But then he could have added one more thing, that when the palestinians voted for hamas, the Israeli Government preferred hamas, organization for the liberation of palestine, and hamas secretly supported, not very secretly, semisecretly collaborated with it, so if we use this principle, then. We can say that israel played a role in the fact that hamas came to power remained in power, and then lets lets say that all israelis, since they did not rebel against this , well, of course, even here its uncomfortable to laugh, but since this was still a statement by the president of israel, although the Prime Minister has real power in israel, but no one tried to correct the president , this, of course, speaks from my point of view of a very dangerous mentality, and dangerous not only for the palestinians, but indirectly for them because no matter what happens, they will respond, and, frankly speaking, very dangerous for international security, because when arabs hear such things, their blood boils , the arab street begins to become active, and this has the potential to create even greater words in this already, lets say, difficult region, Yuri Tavrovsky, famous specialist. On china, tell us what we can expect from putins visit and where sinoamerican relations, and most importantly russianchinese relations, are heading, because i have a feeling that what President Biden said should have interfered with sinoamerican relations , and it could even help the russianchinese, absolutely right, you know, when biden says that he is ready on two fronts. Fight, then he forgets about the third front, the chinese, yes, does america have enough strength to fight with china, with russia, potentially with an explosion on to cope with the middle east, this is very problematic, and i think that now in beijing putin and sidinping will certainly discuss the situation that is unfolding in the middle east. Not only because russia and china have economic, military , National Interests in this region, but also because the middle east is in the brics zone and nearby the sco, and saudi arabia, saudi arabia, egypt, that is. One belt is brix, yes, yes, and now look, shoos, this is pakistan with an atomic bomb, yes, then there is here there is something for putin and sijinpin to talk about, on such a global scale, and if we talk about their bilateral meeting, this is certainly a very important meeting, a lot can be expected from it, because the leaders of two great powers are meeting , people who do not stumble, who think very well, including for the future, what is happening now will happen in beijing, it will be, it will be a triumph of sijinpings foresight, which, by the way , putin spoke about in an interview with the chinese media, he said that a farsighted man, look, putin, xidin ping came to power at the end of the twelfth year, already in march of the thirteenth year, 3 months later, he flies to moscow, thereby completing the thirty years of chinas orientation towards america, and opens a new era, which now continues 11 years, in november of the same thirteenth year, sidinping proclaimed the silk Road Initiative , now 10 years later. We see that from this , in general, a geoeconomic axis of a planetary scale has grown, now 147 countries will come to beijing, plus 30 international organizations, and these two lines are developing so successfully that synergy is occurring, and i really hope that this is the result of a new assessment. What this farsighted position has given will be a new level of russianchinese relations, because you and i know that russia is not participating in the belt and Road Initiative, but now its possible, i think, i hope so, that in new ones conditions when we no longer have just a strategic partnership, but, in general, military coordination after sidinpins march visit to moscow. What moscow can do in a new way look at cooperation with china, including, for example, in the construction of strategic railways, we know that putin ordered to study the issue of building a Siberian Railway, can you imagine what kind of Capital Investment this is, he ordered the construction of a Siberian Railway through mongolia western railway, again, based on the fact that russianchinese relations and economic relations are developing so rapidly that the existing infrastructure is simply choking, it cannot keep up. That is, if now the chinese will begin to participate in these large projects, then we can expect that very quickly these bottle necks will be embroidered, expanded, and there is nothing so terrible about it, but what were they afraid of, say , in 2015, remember, there was an agreement then about the integration of the silk road and the eac, it was a purely political act in order to reassure people who. China is invading our area of responsibility in central asia, it is he who wants to squeeze us out, then pin and putin already signed this agreement, now we need there is nothing to be afraid of, we really, we have military coordination going on, and specific construction projects, we see, in moscow the chinese are building a metro, they have already built several sections, the chinese are building sections of the railway on the expressway, which goes from st. Petersburg to kazan and beyond it will go to china. The chinese are involved in the development of our arctic oil fields; they have invested several billion dollars there. The chinese are showing great interest in the northern sea route, where we also need money, technology, because i expect a lot, i expect a lot from this meeting, and. I think that the coming 2 days will be very productive, both for bilateral relations and for the architect of the world, since the silk road is one of these the structures that hold the world together, yes, the sco, brix, this is the eac, the csto, these are all the structures of the new world order, and today the minister of Foreign Affairs of russia, sergei lavrov, met with the chinese minister of Foreign Affairs and i read a communication about this meeting and what impressed me, what was said there was that the positions of the parties on almost all issues were either identical or very close, i have not seen such optimistic formulations for a long time, at least i remember, and i want to ask you when we are talking about two specific geopolitical issues war on ukraine and what is happening now between israel and the palestinians on these issues, how would you characterize the coincidence or lack thereof between the positions of moscow and beijing . I think that the positions do not coincide completely 100 , but they are very close, china has its own National Interests, we have our own National Interests, we bring them together as much as possible, but it is not at all necessary for us to keep pace and sing in chorus the song moscow, beijing, moscow, beijing, yes, and as for the situation in ukraine, uh, some of our experts they say thats why china doesnt help us in ukraine, where is the chinese . Troops near podnetsk, yes, why, after all, we are with china , thats right, perfect friendship, i answer them, you know, lets go from the opposite of what would have happened on our front in ukraine if china had not pulled over some of the nato troops and america, what would happen to our balance of payments if china did not buy sanctioned. Energy resources, what would happen on the Global Information market if china essentially did not support us in information terms. Were going out to advertise, well be back in just a few minutes. William burns, director of the cia, who is he . In the twentyfirst year he came to the post of director of the cia, in the twentysecond year the cia already. Developed a concept the dismemberment of russia, what is happening now in the Nagorno Karabakh region, this is also him, at the beginning of the 2000s, burns was the ambassador to russia, maybe even then he was undercover , young deputies of that time were gathered, it was necessary to understand how to create this huge mass of the fifth column, the current Biden Administration is the best expert on russia, as they say, who is the visionary, every us president ial inauguration is accompanied by a mormon choir. Burns has a mormon father, and mormon himself, i am sure , the cia, under his leadership can do everything, he can be the engine of various active operations against russia, my hair is mostly due to the fact that i ive been studying russia, but ive learned that its a big mistake to underestimate russia. William burns, you cant get by with gray hair, dolls of the heir tutti, tomorrow on the first. Rum. Castro. Product of stellar group. There is a big game on the air, it seems to me that president putin in his interview with the chinese news agency, he said that, in general, russia is ready to take the chinese plan as a basis, probably not to say the chinese version, chinese proposals for peaceful regulation, again i think it was said, well, if you want, more unconditionally than. You know, uh, the chinese proposals, they are not specific, they are common sense, they just Say Something that any sane person can subscribe to, but since zelsky is an unsound person, he rejects the very possibility of even negotiations, yes, and indeed , chinese peace initiatives, in some cases they are very productive, we know that the chinese managed to pardon iran and saudi arabia to some extent. We know what was planned with chinese help, contacts between the palestinians and israel, the chinese were also very active there, but in ukraine, well, let it be a chinese initiative. And regarding the middle east, i also had the impression that, again, there is no detailed plan, neither russian nor chinese. But it is emphasized, as it seems to me, by both countries that, firstly, active diplomacy is necessary, and not just Israeli Military action, and secondly, that this diplomacy must one way or another lead to the creation of an independent palestinian state, that is, the main the approach, it seems to me, is the same, absolutely, you know, again, this is one of my hopes that putin and sidzinpin will make a joint statement on the middle east and it will be very significant, weighty words from moscow, weighty beijing, but when this synergy, such an impulse comes, they will have to listen to it, especially since israel has good relations with moscow and beijing, the palestinians, if such a peacekeeping initiative is announced in beijing, it will be. Cooperation, so in fact, preventing murder in the middle east, and even the possible use of Tactical Nuclear weapons. Thank you, dmitry drazdenko, leading military expert and editorinchief of fatherland magazine. Lets talk about what it might look like. Israeli military operation in the gaza area, what do you predict . Well, first of all, if i may, a little about the mystical, i remembered you, just bidens speech, i had a dream this morning, and the emperor from star wars, with bidens face, is cheerfully running with his guards along the corridors of the death star, hes running, and its biden, i just woke up in shock, and now to get serious, as i already said, i dont fully believe that israel slept through the hamas attack. Im almost sure that this has been in preparation for so long, and not a single intelligence service, not the army, or nisad in this situation could have foreseen this, its unlikely. For israel, this is the beli incident, that is, only 2,000 people created the incident. And now israel plans to solve the global palestinian issue in one fell swoop, that is, if we remember what Vladimir Putin says and sidzepin, this is precisely a return to the un decision. Resolution of borders, that is, the palestinian state, the Israeli Border of the state, where everything is written down, in my opinion, the borders of the year sixtyseven, but where is it written down somewhere . Israel is absolutely not satisfied with this, it is not satisfied for various reasons, from religious to economic, so i think that now israel will solve the problem of simply the disappearance of gas along with the palestinians as such, pushing them out anywhere, erasing this area from the map, so that in the future this. Was not raised, in addition, the second level is, if the conflict develops, there is a question of a strike on iran, i will explain why, that is. It seems to me that blinkins main goal in his trip is precisely isolation iran from other arab states with the goal that they should not interfere in any way if something happens, and even more so israel, ill tell you, now in march, in my opinion, twentysecond year , it was working out delivering a massive strike on iran with the help their f35 and aidir fighters, and special ones developed by them tons of adjustable bombs, and did it quite. Confidently, and this was stated by air force Commander Norkin from 1918 to 1922, when he said that we easily fly throughout the entire middle east, that is, it seems to me that this operation is sufficiently planned, therefore, it will be difficult to stop israel now, especially since there is currently only one Aircraft Carrier group, soon two in the United States, which will be stationed there, will control that none of the external forces, actors, well, with the exception of interfere. And in case if iran intervenes in some way, there will be a massive attack on it, that is, they are trying to cut this gordian knot that has existed there for decades, and uh, no peaceful solution from israel, to be honest, i i dont see it in this situation, that is, there will be a ground operation, it will be cruel, and if we call the actions hamasteristic, that is, when the action kills women, children, and so on, then the same opinion must be applied to the opposite side, which acts and acted with the same similar methods. When you, uh, say that it was well prepared, that you do not believe that Israeli Military intelligence , that massat did not see anything, you are clearly hinting, or at least it seems to me that you are hinting, that it was the israelis themselves or israeli patrons who did it , what do you have . Well, i can only hint and assume , if only because the protective system that stands in these places can see a mouse from kilometers away, it feels the vibration of the earth, that is, Israeli Soldiers are constantly sitting there, who monitor the monitors, that is, this is a whole wellcoordinated, builtin Security System , i think that in our country we dont even have anything like this anywhere, because they built it there, then suddenly this system falls in front of guys on atvs on motelplanes, yes , you know, this is from a technical point of view, from a Military Point of view it looks funny, and the most interesting thing is that if , as far as i understand, just before the attack , three idf battalions were withdrawn from the border, that is, you see, here is a huge, perfect army of israel and 2,000 people apply this damage, okay, pearl harvor, nevertheless, nevertheless, nevertheless, tell me, who do you think . Could he be behind this . Well, israel itself may be behind this, which, as you yourself correctly said, has constantly raised this hamas for igor over many years, precisely by opposing it to the organization for the liberation of palestine. This time. Second, naturally, a very quick reaction, auk, gerald ford, which goes or has already gone there, there are still 90 aircraft there for a minute. And the fact that another Aircraft Carrier is heading there. Group, this one here unconditional support of the United States, and the trips of secretary of state blinken, which take place precisely in those countries that can provide support, but they are , as it were, the opposite camp in relation to the same iran, in relation to the same hamas, that is, these everything is simple things add up to one whole, why, let s say, if they are fighting so hard against khabas and decided to destroy it, why is qatar not being asked about. Blocking, closing, handing over the headquarters that is located there, you you know, its hard for me to imagine that israel itself would organize such an attack, itself, because in relation to their boys and girls, they are really sentimental, so for them to set them up like this, its hard for me to imagine, its also hard for me to imagine it, because now, unlike biden, who, it seems to me, cannot think strategically, netanyahu is a more experienced and serious statesman, and so that netanyahu does not understand that they can open pandoras box, and what will come out of this box, that this could be a nightmare of precisely that peace settlement, imposed by an independent state in some part of palestine, i even think that its hard for me to believe, i know that without netanyahus participation such a plan could not be implemented, but now i will contradict myself, many. Years ago i had a conversation with the former director of the cia, richard helms, who was, well, of all the directors of the cia, he was the most terrible, i mean, he was a master of covert operations, and so further, he had a very verbal relationship with his ex president Richard Nixon because helms refused to allow nixon to use the cia to create a false impression. That, as it were, people who worked for the Republican National committee, that in fact this was a secret cia operation, and that it could not be investigated, and in general, nixon did not forgive helms for his refusal to help him at an hour when it was very important for him necessary, removed him from the post he held in the cia, and then. Appointed him ambassador to iran, but in general, the deposits did not work out, nevertheless, i tried when i helped nixon, somehow bring helms back into his circle , we had a meeting where helms outlined to nixon his vision of the international situation, before nixons trip to the soviet union, it was still the soviet union, and we talked about what went to in terms of various terrorist attacks within the soviet union and some other very unpleasant things. And nixon said, but i dont think that this could have been done by any forces inside the soviet union. And i said that i, uh, i dont see who in the soviet union could do this, and i dont think that it could be tsir, but health is so looked at me. How do you know, i say, well, the cia couldnt, the United States supports gorbachev, reagan just went to the soviet union, it all seemed to go very well, but it cant be that the cia did Something Like that. Yes, what i said, im not saying that the cia did this, because i dont know this, and especially if i knew, i wouldnt say it now, but when you analyze what could have been there happen, if i were you, i wouldnt rule out that we, he meant the United States and the cia, this they helped a little, so according to my logic. As far as i understand sound logic, i cannot imagine that this hamas attack was in any way organized by israel and the United States, but at the end of the day all i can say is, inshalah, because indeed, this is this such events, which from a rational point of view, you are absolutely right, are very difficult to explain. Lets leave this on the conscience of those who did it and lets not blame anyone for now, yes, i just wanted to say, i dont blame anyone, just, im arguing from the point of view of profitable, unprofitable, perhaps impossible, if we look at the map, then not this, not this, not this, not this, not this, not this country, and this country, its not profitable , here, right here, specifically, there are the richest gas and oil fields, which should be developed in the near future, there is also a geopolitical one, everything is correct, we must go out on advertising, and we will talk about this later, everything is correct, if talk about who benefits from what you say, makes a lot of sense, unfortunately, i know that not only people, but also the state very often do not do what is beneficial and that there may be someones evil hand that is not at all profitable for them, but they do it nevertheless , we go to advertising, well be back in just a few minutes, we have misha, firstly, anything is possible, secondly, this is a night broadcast, i call them a talented muscle, at the time when plushenko was in yagudinin, they were two bears, in one den at home, your wit is legendary, talented trainer and a mediocre student will lose to a mediocre coach and a talented student, it seems to me, another golden phrase, to the fund of your golden catchphrases. Lab podcast, first today. How did the ukrainian tsypso fail the operation against the invasion of poisonous jellyfish . The agenda is dictated by the british and americans, and they still havent found out what exactly we are doing that is criminal. Russia allegedly staged an ecocyte. Ukraine produced a real ecocyte when it dumped its sludge. In mariupol, they are supposedly no longer being restored. At home, i know the huge volumes of construction new housing. There was a hole here, my roof was completely broken, as well as the terrible consequences of womens mobilization in ukraine. Antifake, premiere, tomorrow on the first. Theres a big game on the air, we continue to discuss the latest events in b. Vostok, and i know that Yuri Tavrovsky has interesting observations that he would like to share with us. Yes, since i am not only a sinologist, but also a japanese scholar, i wanted to remember the situation that was in the far east in 1941, which is somewhat similar to the situation in the middle east today, then, as you know, pearl harbor happened, and it was actually unprofitable for the japanese to attack. Pearl harbor, america, and the navy that carried out this attack, he objected to this attack , the imperial insertion, however, took place attack, and roosevelt too, it was hardly beneficial to sacrifice the lives of the american guys, but he sacrificed them in order to get casus belli to start a real war against japan, because. The opinion in the american elite was 55, some were for, some were against, so it happens that decisions are made that at first glance contradict the interests of both countries, absolutely clearly, and i want to repeat, i m not ready to agree with dmitry yet, but im saying for now, and that of course, this is interesting, if you like a line for investigation, and something that we have to watch carefully and not, as i tried to say, not take anything for granted here, i wont take for granted that the american hegemony that President Biden talked about, that she will work in relation to the middle east, when we talk about American Leadership in europe, you are a former ambassador to the European Union, you know european politics very well, i have the impression that the europeans are not eager to take a clearly proisraeli position, what do you think . This is true, in relation to the majority of europeans ; in general, european politics and the political situation in the European Union today makes a pitiful impression, firstly, the first thing the European Union does when some kind of an external challenge, it is splitting, this also happened against the backdrop of recent events in the middle east, some countries, a minority, came out with openly proisraeli. And positions and views, but the majority, which grew stronger as events developed and the pictures brought scenes of these bombings and shelling from the israeli side, plus the strengthening of the gas blockade regime, and the majority, in general, advocated a balanced position, you know, i remember the middle east. Then there was one among the Foreign Policy topics on which our political dialogue with the European Union was very successful, we issued a whole series of joint statements, generally adhering to similar positions. Moreover, let me remind you that the International Quartet of mediators included russia, the United States, the un and the European Union, and at the last gasp of this quartet, so to speak, the balance of forces was three against one and that one was the United States, and this time, that means, in a specific plan, there are countries, and specific representatives of the European Union, i will already be here talking about the leaders of european structures, well, the famous ursula fonder, i understand , she is german, so she probably moved the cursor a little, so to speak, so. Without coordinating with anyone else, and without receiving the goahead from the member countries , this, as they say, went beyond her official powers, they are responsible for everything that their government does, so it is quite normal to deal with them. I never remember anything like this from the soviet union. Lets change the subject a little. Is Artificial Intelligence. I just read an article in the new issue of Foreign Affairs magazine. I dont even know until the end whether it was released or not. The authors sent me this article, and there are two very interesting authors, henry kissinger. And this is graham ellison. Graham ellison was once a student of kissinger many years ago. He is now a very respected professor at harvard, has headed their Largest Research think tank, and is known as a big supporter of developing relations with russia over the years. And maintaining the arms control regime. And they dont propose in their article to do nothing against russia, there is no such thing there, but they propose to create, if you like, a condominium of the United States and china, if not for the development of Artificial Intelligence, then at least for the development of measures that will not allow Artificial Intelligence to develop Artificial Intelligence, get out of control. Allow individual countries or even individual groups to deal a big blow to anyone and here they make, from my point of view, one very important statement that when we were talking about the damn weapons, then in general they were developed by states, but with Artificial Intelligence, the danger is that. Individual Large Companies can also develop, and naturally, it is very difficult to create rules here, to control this, i may be wrong, dmitry, because i am not at all an expert in this field, but of course i was bothered by the proposal that the United States uniquely cooperate with china on this matter, i understand that china has many opportunities that it does not have today russia, but i also understand that russia is a nuclear superpower, and that if russia were excluded from this process, then in general this would mean that russia is excluded, but if you want, from the area, russian capabilities, in which russia was made super rusty, so of course it really bothered me. And so i want to ask you how seriously, firstly, you need to take the possibility of americanchinese cooperation in the field of Artificial Intelligence, because, to put it mildly, there is still no agreement with china on this matter. We consulted, secondly, more seriously, Artificial Intelligence is really an area where we can expect some big breakthroughs. In the very near future . Well, first of all, Artificial Intelligence is probably one of those games of humanity when it pretends to be a god , and how it will end is actually unknown to anyone, but there are only assumptions, well, the movie terminator, that famous skynet, which here he controlled all these bots, this is an Artificial Intelligence created on the basis of a neural network, that is, that there was an understanding, we now we are teaching these Artificial Intelligences, this is gpt chat, this is. That is, on our side this is kandinsky, this is alice gpt, that is, china has its own systems that learn through interaction with humans, military use is artificial. Intelligence, it kind of already exists, but depending on what you call Artificial Intelligence, intelligence at the level of a monkey, intelligence at the level of a oneyearold child, intelligence at the level of a professor, these are different intelligences, for example, now these systems with Artificial Intelligence help to quickly analyze data sets in the army, that is, data has been received from various sources, sensors, what are the names of aircraft, satellites, and so on, all this situation, which took hours to analyze at headquarters, is resolved in principle in a minute, that is, the selection of targets from the photo tablet is processed instantly. Rudiments of Artificial Intelligence systems are used in the same air Defense Systems , which, in principle, only requires confirmation from a person, yes yes, that is, it itself determined the target, identified the danger, this is built into modern fighters, that is , we already live in this, this is after all even there is in advanced cars, then there is the question of the ethics of the exception, i would take aside the military component here, because well, of course, well, the military is made up of china and america, which will not be erased either. In the terminator there, of course, Artificial Intelligence launched nuclear missiles, but in fact our life is so permeated it is precisely these systems of interaction from a smart home to many other things, even if we take power plants, nuclear plants, which, in principle, are absolutely impossible to isolate from the global system , exactly communication, and there Artificial Intelligence is more applicable in general, more dangerous than just its military use, and indeed, if Nuclear Weapons were developed there by the state, then here it is a purely private prerogative, that is , somewhere, someone there is doing it there in the west, sberbank is doing it there, yandex is doing it, that is, in fact , its impossible not to do it, because Artificial Intelligence is an increase in Labor Productivity, and Labor Productivity is the economy, this is exactly that level state, the strength of the state, which is more important, i think, even military potential , thank you, senator, you know, i remember one conversation that i had probably 1012 years ago, back during the Obama Administration in the United States, a conference was held in paris on information technology, in the context of global security, there were specialists from russia and specialists from other countries. And there was a lady, i dont remember her last name, but she held the post of first deputy minister of internal security, secity, she was quite frankly admitted, you know, she says how the internet appeared, in principle, we in the pentagon conceived this, purely for military use, but we didnt have enough money, some kind of military budget, we had to do this very quickly , we realized that we we no longer control this process, it has taken on a life of its own, the same thing is apparently happening today with Artificial Intelligence, it is obvious to me that we still dont know a lot of things, not everything can be foreseen, but it seems to me that it is clear that for future of russia, including for russias military capabilities, this is an area where russia needs to do a lot, again, i spoke with a number of russian