People . Recently there was just this lecture dedicated to the anniversary of the flight by Valentina Vladimirovna tereshkova. In this lecture i tell you that there is a common myth that space is something harsh, very technical and it is not for women, and i try to show it using the examples of our women cosmonauts and those who flew into space, to show that space is a womans business , since i have encountered this in my life, a lot of specialists in roscosmos work for women, a lot of girls, as it turns out, in fact, the lectures flew in space from our country. And here you just need to understand, well, you can compare it with , for example, western cosmonautics, again, the usa , more people flew there, but it turns out that we rank second in the number of women who flew into space, this is really very cool, well, in general , probably the main message of the lecture is to dispel the myth that this is not a womans business, space, its just a business that you do, it doesnt matter who is a man or a woman, if you love it, why cant you do it, tell us more about the project we believe into space, and this is a project, which i founded just in the eighteenth year, yes, this is a scientific and practical project , we believe in space, which i founded and now it is joined by guys, enthusiasts who are also giving lectures by industry experts, a project aimed at comprehensively popularizing astronautics and the story of space in different directions, this is the creation of books, the creation of media products, running social networks, this is the development of space education, including school education, that is , this is the development of teaching materials for School Teachers so that the topic of space is so laconic and. Very gently included in the school curriculum, since we believe that the theme of space should be present as widely as possible in all areas of our lives, so that people get interested in it and more people Pay Attention to this industry, well , actually, this is in fact, our mission is to popularize space, talk about it very seriously, there has been a project since 1918, that is, as soon as i graduated from university, i immediately thought that there were probably people who would share my mission about that we need to talk about it and are ready to talk about it, let them go. We have been doing this for years, gradually, gradually , it seems to me, we are little by little solving the problems of popularization, we are trying to do this on a larger scale for a larger audience, it seems to me that we are doing it quite well, although of course we can do better. Denis, i know that on your website it says that you are a member of the expert community, the council of teachers of bloggers, please tell us about this . There is such a council for education, from teachers of bloggers, who, uh, have brought together the best teachers of bloggers who talk about their profession on blogs, and the main task is to show that a blogger is not something bad, a blogger is also about positive, good content, as it is called on the internet, that is, many bloggers really say very useful things, here i am a blogger who talks about space, that is, you are a teacher, yes, i teach at a school in moscow, i teach circles on Space Systems engineering, also i run the school space museum. That is, on the basis of one particular moscow school, i am looking for young cosmonauts and trying to start training them to introduce them again into our cosmetics industry, so the advice was collected in order to show that teachers can be bloggers, this is an absolutely normal story in modern realities , bloggers are also good people who , again, bring positive, good content and who can teach something, here again i am a blogger, my colleagues are popularizers, bloggers, but at the same time, we dont dance on camera there just for the hell of it. We are still trying to tell about space, some new facts , in general, probably, the task of the council is to show that a blogger is a person who simply writes blogs on the internet, to what extent children are now interested in space, you teach at school, you you see the opposite reaction, i see the reaction is that they are very much interested in space, since the world is very huge, the world is very largescale and there are areas of activity that seem more interesting, for example, the it sphere, programmers, developers of some. Games , but of those children who risk coming to my classes to listen to the socalled water part about the history of astronautics, they immediately begin to light up, because the scale is completely different, to develop some. An it product for some company, it will simply be another product of this company, or develop again the same program code, some kind of it product, but for the space industry, which will be useful there either for the whole country or in general to the whole world, its still tasks of different scales, children indeed, even if they have not been enlarged by space, they can come after the first lesson , they already come to the second with their eyes lit up, and accordingly they already begin to put forward some ideas, hypotheses that lets design a ship that will fly. To mars, well, here, unfortunately, their life is broken up by serious adult life, since not everything is as simple as it seems to them, but what is the advantage of children, that their minds are not yet clouded, they can sometimes offer truly unique ideas that it couldnt have occurred to you, because you read the textbooks and its like you cant do it like this, then a child comes and shows you that maybe well try and you re like, well, lets try, maybe it will work, denis, lets imagine what will happen do people in 50 years in space, in 50 years in space, i think that we will already be able to fly to mars, develop technology, ensure the safety of icapage, and humanity in general, i think that we will still be very close to the earth , but still not at a distance of 400,000 km, but at a distance of several million, tens of millions of kilometers from the earth, and we will also continue our, well, as it is sometimes called, the expansion of space, yes, that is, the development of Space Exploration by humans, that is, this is mars maximum, well, in my understanding , yes, i will not , what do we do . On the moon, i think, by that time some kind of lunar base will have already been built, that is , similar to the iss or with ros already then, on which astronauts will live and work, either in orbit or on the surface, i think that on surface, since this is a more interesting, more likely correct task, that is, exploring from the surface is always much easier than exploring from orbit, which is why i think that some kind of lunar base will be built, there were such projects in soviet times, but now we already understand that technologically we have, in principle, either grown up, or are about to grow up, that is, we have just a little left, we will have a base on the moon where an astronaut will work, i had a guest who was a popularizer of astronautics , which talks about space even to children, denis prudnik, im anton shkaplerov, this is a space stories podcast. Hello, this is the podcast schrodingers cat and i am its leading editorinchief of a Popular Science magazine with the same name schrodingers cat , and my cohost is the cat, he is not schrodinger, he is mine, his name is bari, he will help me and provide moral support, yes bari we have a wonderful guest sergei kuch sverchkov, cosmonaut pilot, hero of russia and in general. A person whom i envy from the moment we met, i honestly admit, here is sergei, here you are 10 years younger than me, and at the same time you managed to fly to the iss, go into outer space, how many more than 6 hours there you tried, yes, yes, 6 47, after that fly to antarctica, live there in a tent in search of meteorite, in general, you can already make an adventure book out of you, i cant say that im the only person who works for science and goes to some extreme places in order to advance science, i guess i was just noticeable, oh, there come on, dont be modest, well, after all, there are not many people on our planet out of 8 billion, who were in space in antarctica, well, probably, yes, i agree, as a child you dreamed about this, that this is the fate, that i will be like a polar explorer, 35, antarctica, and then into space in a spacesuit, looking at the earth, thats how in childhood no, in childhood no, all the boys now, and then in my childhood they dreamed and dream of being some kind of superheroes, little ones, because all the boys dream of saving the world, and when i was a child, i dreamed of being the most ordinary superhero a firefighter who performs heroic deeds every day and saves people, but over time the dream transformed, already at a more conscious age at the university i thought about the profession of an astronaut, i managed to fly into space and prepare, but as for antarctica, i want to say that our polar explorers, employees of antarctic stations and arctic stations, they are really very close in spirit in their way of activity, probably to astronauts, as you now define for yourself the goal of work, thats why you had to fly into space, why you had to look for meteorites in antarctica, sounds amazing, but why . Well , in general, everyone should ask themselves this question when starting a business, why, what . But it will work out, for me the criterion is to go where it is difficult, because working in incredible difficult conditions is not possible for everyone, due to the loads that arise, due to some psychological limitations, well, not everyone is ready to live in a confined space for six months at the station, but it is important to conduct some experiments, gain new knowledge and bring them to those who can use this knowledge in full, because astronauts, of course, have a very close relationship with science, we conduct various experiments, and for this we study various fields of science, but we do not dive into it very deeply, there are many, many different scientists, who give us tasks, and we do these tasks according to instructions, we obtain this knowledge , this is exactly what we do as foreigners, in antarctica, well, lets return to the topic of adventure, how to prepare for an absolute surprise, here in antarctica, as i remember , you have problems something happened with the weather, the tent broke down, its absolutely terrible 35, your tent is broken, that s how it was, were sending an astronaut into space in the open, well, practically, come on. Well, in general , during space flight and during other expeditions on earth, we always try to think, what can await us . Of course, its impossible to calculate everything, there is some kind of excitement in this, this is what causes excitement, if you know what will happen for sure, and you know what wont happen, then why worry, you can calculate and think through everything, but the point is that this is why the conditions are called extreme, that they are complex and there is a high level of surprise, for example, there was a surprise in antarctica, lets not, well, antarctica, antarctica is generally a place with a huge number of surprises, firstly, its the weather, its unpredictable, not in terms of that , that we can fly there and it will be hot, no, there may be a storm and snow there, or there may not be, there may be a high temperature, or there may be a sharp drop, the weather leaves much to be desired, and oops, at night, at night there was wind, with gusts up to 90 km h, the carriages were sitting so that it seemed like we were traveling on a train , and it was vibrating all over, there was noise outside the window, a real antarctic summer, one might say, well, you were in for everything, yes, as i understand it, we were in, yes in changing weather conditions and there are times of year when everything can change quickly, you need to be prepared for this, in terms of clothing, in terms of equipment, and even calculating your logistics, you need to be prepared for changes in plans, so we flew, for example, to antarctica, the weather was very good and we, and how good, good weather, sunny, firstly, the most important thing is that visibility is good, there is an airfield built right on the ice, and the only way to land is by visual. Reference, that is, there are no drives, radio beacons, well some kind of flags, yes, yes, everything is visual, that is, if the pilot does not see the stripe, he turns around, returns back several thousand, what it looks like, this is a white field, there are flags at the edges, this is a white field, it is marked, yes, there are special signs there, like at the runway, a large transport plane was landing for the flight, but we arrived there, the weather was perfect, we arrived and said, thats it , the next day we have to fly away on a small plane, and to where no one has ever landed, its also a very interesting task, that is just for a flight, yes, just for a flight 160 km from the base, the landing area was chosen because we cannot understand the point, but before that we prepared for any unpredictable situation, we can still prepare, as it means , satellite images, we now have modern technologies make it possible to provide some information about a place that is very far away. We studied the experience of the previous expedition and chose certain points for landing, negotiated with the pilot of a small plane, we took off and already on the spot the plane circled, chose a landing point that was interesting and possible for landing, and was convenient for us, because the search area for meteorites should was found near the landing point. We chose, landed, were dropped off, and unloaded several hundred kilograms. Provisions, equipment, everything we needed, fuel, a snowmobile, and the plane took off, thats all, it left us alone, in a place that was completely surrounded by ice and mountains, there was no feeling of horror, although after space, i think its unlikely or, when youre sitting here, you have a thin tent, many hundreds of kilometers all around, just ice and nothing, theres no horror, but at that moment you understand perfectly well that if something happens, then the whole load will fall just only for crew members, the same as on the space station, if anything happens, all issues should be resolved exclusively by the crew, and what kind of team did you have, and we had, a very interesting team, we had on the team two climbers, snow leopards, vitali lazo and Ruslan Kolunin, they provided both safety and logistics, in general, in such small crews, a person is multifunctional, like a multiinstrumentalist, that is, just like the crews at the station, one person must, the guides and notalia filmed the film, yeah, and ruslan provided logistics and operation of the equipment, that is, engineering functions, at the same time, everything the team members were trained to search for meteorites, in general, searching for a meteorite in antarctica is very interesting. When you are looking for something that doesnt look like a local object, like local stones, that is, you cant say for sure what a meteorite will look like here, because it should simply be different from earthly stones, well, we wont dive into the topic now geology, and the team , here are six people, including you, yes, yes, yes, here are five people, two are just climbers, and well, highlevel climbers, two people, one, danis nurgaliev, was a professor. Kazan university, alexander pastukhovich, a researcher at the ural federal university, a meteorite specialist, and andrei nazarov, a member of the expedition and he was also involved in filming the film and searching for meteorites, everyone worked as one, this is very important, because there are a lot of surprises, then is when we arrived and the direction of the wind, it was necessary to understand it, in order to put up the tent correctly, we put the tent in a certain orientation, and so that the wind does not break it, it must there must be a shadow, there must be some rocks nearby, because the tent needs to be secured, why, because it can be hot , the shadow is an aerodynamic shadow, that is, from the wind, and the aerodynamic dough, where the wind does not reach, is blocked by something, but what it should block, that is, we chose the place in advance based on satellite imagery , after all, its like 35, wind, how to survive in an ordinary tent with two single layers, but its unusual, the tent was specially designed for strong winds and under placing everyone together, that is, the tent was large for six people with a separate vestibule for cooking, and why . Because when you boil water, the steam rises, immediately freezes and can, uh, like snow fall inside a tent, it will fall on things. Everything will melt, things will be wet, so the place, the place where we prepared the food, it was isolated, everything was thought out in advance, but unfortunately, the structure turned out to be not stable enough, not Strong Enough for the antarctic wind, and the tent broke, yes the tent, the wind , wind gusts reached almost 100 km h, and the tent just collapsed, we had to spend the night in a broken tent, but it was so strong that when six people were lying in a tent, and the equipment, six adult men, and the tent was still tied and the wind was lifting it, and it wasnt scary at that moment, uh , well, i wouldnt say that it was not scary at all, there was a certain excitement , there was excitement, yes, but there was a certain excitement , because i couldnt sleep, the fabric was flapping very strongly, there was a very strong wind, that is, one can imagine to myself, probably car, when youre driving at 120 km h and youre leaning out of the car, youre sleeping like this, then we had to decide what to do next, we understood perfectly well that the plane wouldnt just fly for us in such a wind, so we had to will live in these conditions for some time, well, it will be necessary, then it will be necessary, we were ready for this, but how to live without a tent, well, life without a tent, we also had an additional tent, exclusively for cooking, to cook food in a closed volume, but the clothes, which we had, it involved being in the conditions of antarctica almost around the clock, wearing overalls for highaltitude climbing, highaltitude climbing boots, that is, in principle, we could exist safely without a tent, and you still continued to explore, even when the tent broke, and yes, because we essentially had no other choice, well, in the end , if the tent is broken, then this is not a reason to stop, somehow there is nowhere, well, yes, but, but we understood perfectly well that the faster we lets finish the field work, the better it will be, because via satellite communication we. We received a forecast , very unfavorable, that is, the conditions were only getting worse, we had a very small Weather Window when we requested evacuation, schrodingers cat podcast is with you, and i am its host, grigory tarasevich, together with my friend the cat bar, we ask questions about science and adventures to the hero of russia, pilot cosmonaut sergei kud sverchkov, after all, how. 35, such a strong wind, and you are without a tent, how did you warm up, how did you relax, warm up , they heat up very easily, the warmth of