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“I’m Rachel Hollis,” a female voice chirps in the introduction to the first episode of the inspirational podcast Rise Together, which premiered in the summer of 2018. “I’m Dave Hollis,” a male voice responds. The two describe their marriage of 14 years and their four kids (“which is like a thousand kids!” Dave jokes). They talk about what it’s like to run a business together, the Hollis Company, a fount of conferences, merch, and multimedia content centered on improving yourself, your life, and your moneymaking abilities. (Rachel’s mega-bestseller, the vaguely Christian Girl, Wash Your Face: Stop Believing the Lies About Who You Are so You Can Become Who You Were Meant to Be, had come out earlier that year.) Then, the conversation hits on the core message for the new podcast, which promises to be all about bettering yourself as part of a couple: “We feel like it’s possible we know it’s possible to have an exceptional relationship despite the stresses you

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