important and we need to communicate them pre emptively and clearly to everybody. first off, there is no design, no intention, no action to attack any forces on the ground. they are there to enforce a no fly zonein are there to enforce a no fly zone in the air so that ever happens on the ground happens. no attacking russian forces, unless fired upon. if fired upon, they can return fire. secondly, no desire, no intention, no engagement with russian aircraft or fixed wing or ordinary wing aircraft, as long as they stay outside the zone. if they come into the zone. if they come into the zone and fire their weapons, then we will try to escort them out, and there is a whole escalation of things that air forces know how to do to escort somebody out of the zone, and if they refused to do that or if they refused to do that or if they refused to do that or if they fire upon nato air
east of the country, you might not need to do that. yes. and i don t think not need to do that. yes. and i don t think he not need to do that. yes. and i don t think he will not need to do that. yes. and i don t think he will be don t think he will be satisfied with just annexing that part of the government and leaving the government in place. at least that is not what is most desired outcome is. you might be forced into that position, but they don t think that it is most desired outcome. think that it is most desired outcome- outcome. interesting. let s move the outcome. interesting. let s move the nato outcome. interesting. let s move the nato side - outcome. interesting. let s move the nato side of- outcome. interesting. let s move the nato side of this. what do you think, is there a potential tipping point that would see more involvement, whether you see it at the moment? fist whether you see it at the moment? whether you see it at the moment? , ,., ., ., whether yo
and president biden post presence here in warsaw that really has achieved by the opposite. so we know that before this meeting, mark, prison biden has met other officials in warsaw. what is the significance of that? president biden. ukrainian defence and foreign ministers and other various officials from the government in kyiv. they ve obviously spoken by phone of the last month but this is a moment when the ukrainians can press, probably expected to have the americans to give them more direct military assistance. remember, they ve been calling for a no fly zonein they ve been calling for a no fly zone in ukraine which the americans are so far rejecting saying that they do not want nato troops or nato boots on the ground in ukraine. so an important time to take stock of what is happening and to try to see if they can find ways of
thatis there is significant in terms of that is the first face to face meeting between president biden and the ukrainian ministers since the war began. they have spoken by phone but this is the first face to face meeting and the ukrainians have been grateful for nato s help but they have called for more, they have called for nato patrolled no fly zonein called for nato patrolled no fly zone in ukraine which the americans and many other nato members have rejected because they are wary of being seen to go into a direct military. that will have been on the table during those discussions. we didn t hear from either the table during those discussions. we didn t hearfrom either side speaking to the press but now president biden speaking to his polish counterpart we will find out more about what was said. following talks with the polish president and prime minister, joe biden will meet some of the new arrivals here in