that s dead wrong because as we ve said, that s exactly what cohen s plea deal did. the president s former lawyer pleaded guilty to violating campaign finance law with hush payments to women and said then candidate trump, the plea deal said a federal candidate because it can t name him, told him to do it right before the 2016 election. i m joined pby lanny davis, the lawyer for mr. cohen. mr. davis, i hope you ve been able to take a walk around the building there throughout the day. lots of coffee has helped me. let me start with this. i keep hearing the words deal, deal, deal, plea deal. michael cohen still is facing jail time. michael cohen does not have immunity from anything. michael cohen has other things. what deal did you cut? explain what the deal is when i heard the words deal. what makes it a deal? i have no idea. he pled guilty in a
sorts of from her history, from the fights going on. what are you thinking about today? i m thinking about the fact that she was my first feminist icon. i think as a little girl hearing respect and internalizing that message even without understanding what she was saying. you sort of perked your chest up a little higher and you had more confidence as a small little girl, particularly as a black girl when you don t have a lot of examples outside of you, you know, to make you feel proud. aretha represented, you know, a strong black woman and, you know, i have my mother as an example and i think that she also was an example for me. but i also would say this. she s somebody that is an example for other artists because in this particular moment, art is a tool to speak back to injustice, and so she did she led pby example and artists today can lead by example. donald trump said something
thing. it was a nonsense bogus commission that was dismantled. we d like to see something along those lines. but i guess my question to you is what does success look like here? have you thought about what a world looks like where we understand we re being bombarded by all sorts of bad actors, whether they are state actors or nonstate actors and yet we can live safely and have access to reliable information? ali, i think one of the core elements here is to recognize that our voting systems, which are highly distributed and tend to operate at the county level are an artifact of an older time. the world has changed and the vulnerabilities of that highly distributed system now offset all of the benefits. i think that we really need to have a conversation about what is the right way in a democracy to actually execute the voting process. why tuesday? why do we limit people s ability to vote pby mail or in other ways? why do we have systems out that
subordinates or deputy subordinates. and somewhere along the line someone gets sloppy with their communications and we get a copy of an action message that authorizes this operation to go ahead. you have to remember, this entire russia investigation started as a counterintelligence operation. we had information indicating that russian intelligence was carrying out this operation and was doing it with the assistance of american citizens. what do you make of the sort of echoes between trump and putin s rhetoric on both the economy, which i want to get to in a second because i think it s a deft maneuver pby putin to ingratiate himself. i don t know who is leading who, there s some evidence that it s vladimir putin. he knows how to play trump. from as early as december of 2015, when trump was still in the field with 15 other
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