sound bite, president zelenskyy talking about this nuclear powee attack, watch. i am addressing all ukrainians, all europeans and everyone who knows the word chernobyl. many casualties inflicted by the explosion on the nuclear power plant. this was a global catastrophe and baffled by hundreds of thousands of people. tens of thousands had to be evacuated and russia wants to repeat that. and already repeating it six times bigger. russian propaganda warned in the past to cover the world in nuclear ash. now this isn t just a warning. this is real. trace: and i guess the take away would be that zelenskyy believes this was absolutely targeted. do you share that belief? and before you answer, you should know the fire is out and there is no increase of radiation levels. do you believe that this nuclear power plant was targeted?
here a much bigger neighbor, they are going to believe the united states is not writing to the rescue. they have to start looking at their own nuclear deterrence peer that is a terrible lesson for the rest of the world to learn from this tragedy we are watching him fold in ukraine, trace. trace: literally breaking news with a nuclear power plant and we come from the fire is out here that is some good news there. vladimir putin wants ukraine to disarm before he agrees to a cease-fire. it goes to the next level. do you see in a scenario where zelenskyy is like yes, we will disarm if you promise to cease-fire because so far, is not been good to his word, vladimir putin. no, putin is a liar wants to subjugate the ukrainian nation. zelenskyy has become the george washington of modern ukraine. there is no possible way that he is going to now compromise
keep ukraine in the fight. every single day they are in the fight, every day president zelenskyy s on twitter and meeting with his people, and mobilizing the international community. president zelenskyy who jolted western democracies out of their post-cold war slumber. every that we can do that, it s the most we can hope for. what we have to hope for and i hate to say it s, it s a rare instance i m going to agree at least in part with my former director john brennan is that at some point, you ve reached a breaking point where the russian military may decide that we just cannot take orders from this guy anymore. vladimir putin is a kgb operative and never commended anybody in the russian military. that the kgb experience in the way that he sees the world, maybe that might conflict at some point with the way that russian military leaders on the ground in ukraine want to conduct their business. trace: yeah, good insight.
of the country. his reach is deep but it s also frustration. and he is sending a message to biden and the west not to support ukrainians. but the ukrainians through their actions are demanding support and the support should continue. misha zelenskyy. thank you. we ll be right back. zelenskyy thank you. we ll be right back. what happens when performance. meets power? you try crazy things. .because you re crazy. .and you like it. you get bigger. .badder.
russia as we are starting to see early signs from even some in the political class in russia from some of the oligarchs from journalists, they are starting to speak out against this war by putin as it enters its second month. yeah, zelenskyy addressing the russian people on numerous occasions in russian at that. what are we learning, josh, from your reporting, when it comes to the motivation behind this speech? what they were trying to accomplish here? because because it was so incredibly powerful, because president biden called out putin directly, addressing the russian people directly, calling putin a liar? what was the motivation behind it, the thinking behind it? well, there is some concern right now within the biden administration, yasmin, that while they ve done what they feel is a really solid job in unifying the u.s. and the west, the european nations creating