having to flee their homes in ukraine, people ought to be able to do without some creature comforts in russia. it really is interesting and sort of zelenskyy-ish in their efforts to shame some of these american companies in a way. who is talking to chris wallace? this guy right here now. and, chris, you know, you re one of the few people who looked vladimir putin in the eye, you had a chance to interview putin, what, 2018. i m just curious, what was that like? what is he like? and what insight did that give you into this really remarkable decision he s made to invade another country? well, you know, john, there were a couple of things that from our interview in 2018, it was the day of the summit with donald trump, in helsinki, where trump seemed to fold, and say i believe putin rather than our own intelligence agencies about interference in the 2016 election, he begins this kind of