lead by a popularity contest but is, in fact, showing some values-based leadership. you know, he is a good example of whether or not that can actually make a difference and tip the scales here for any of these people he s out on the campaign trail for. for himself, potentially, going into 2024. really interesting. jackie alemany and vaughn hilliard, thank you both for your reporting. we have a lot to get to on the war in ukraine. two top u.s. officials meet president zelenskyy, as russian forces step up their attacks in ukraine s eastern and southern regions. plus, retired four-star generalccaffery joins us the top of the hour. we dive into french president macron s massive win over his far right challenger. massive. as you predicted on april 12th. i m not sure how you got the
in a situation like that where your red lines are. senator, let me ask you about the big story this week impacting your party. this is a new audio tape we heard from the top republican in the house, leader kevin mccarthy. began with revelations in the new book this will not pass. authors released audio in which we hear mccarthy days after january 6th saying this about then president trump. take a listen and i ll get your reaction on the other side. we know it will pass the house. i think there s a chance it will pass the senate. even when he s gone. it s my recommendation he be gone. for context, it s important to point out before the audio was released, mccarthy said the words totally false and now said the tape was taken out of context. we understand he s spoken to former president trump and mended fences, but you just heard the audio, senator blunt. given the disconnect, how can americans believe what the top
it is the job of democrats. it is the job of the party in power to help make people s lives better. senator the president can do that one all by himself. senator warren, we learned this week in a leaked memo that bernie sanders is not ruling out a run in 2024 if president biden decides he s not running, we want to be very clear, president biden said he s absolutely running. here we are out with this op-ed. are you ruling out a run in 2024 should president biden decide he s not going to make another go? i m not running for president in 2024. i m running for senate. president biden is running for reelection. would you rule it out, senator? would you rule it out? you can ask it any way you want but i m going to say the same thing. president biden is running in 2024 and i m supporting him. okay. you heard my conversation with senator blunt about house minority leader kevin mccarthy. it was notable in your op-ed,
welcome back. senator elizabeth warren ran her 2020 presidential campaign promoting the idea of big structural change and she hasn t given up on that idea. in the new york times this past week, the massachusetts democrat wrote, quote, democrats cannot bow to the wisdom of out of touch consultants who recommend we simply tout our accomplishments. instead democrats need to deliver more of the president s agenda, or else, we ll not be in the majority much longer. among warren s progressive goals, higher taxes for corporations and end to price gouging, some student debt cancellation and lowering prescription drug prices. elizabeth warren joins me now. welcome back to meet the press. good to see you. thank you. good to see you. you write in your op-ed, senator warren, republican senators and broken institutions. you blame them for blocking the progress democrats had promised. but democrats control the house, the senate, and the white house. so why aren t democrats
if you were kevin mccarthy s campaign manager, he wouldn t count on anything at this point. we saw kevin mccarthy do this in realtime. we saw him get up on the floor of the house during the impeachment after january 6th and said the president bears responsibility for this. he voted against impeachment but made very clear he was angry at the president at the time and then a week later, goes to mar-a-lago to pose for a picture and all this happiness and light again. so we had seen him flip-flop, in effect, on his view of former president trump. the tape brings it home in sharp relief, right? the thing i was struck by as much as anything else was for the president, it says a lot about this era right now that it was better for kevin mccarthy to be caught out in a lie, denying something he actually said than to be caught out saying something negative about president trump because he s more worried about that. sara, go ahead. as it came out, you see kevin mccarthy apologizing to presiden