which zainab can tell about and has so passionately. a country where economic rights were largely implemented by most people. our responsibility there, i still hear the words of madeline albright, when she was still the ambassador to the united nations just before she became secretary of state when she was asked on 60 minutes about the 500,000 children that had died not at the hands of saddam hussein but at the sanctions we had orchestrated. she didn t defly it. she didn t say the numbers are exaggerated. she said, we think the price is worth it. that s when we also lost the hearts and minds that we may have ever scraped together somewhere. a translator and journalist in iraq right now. we are going to do that after the break. ok! who gets occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas or bloating? get ahead of it! one phillips colon health probiotic cap a day helps defend against digestive issues
were welcoming us with roses. they thought we were going to have democracy and development. the first six months after the invasion, america had iraqis and then it just continued to deteriorate, a process of lacking in he discussion of hearing the local population and what they are saying. that s part of the problem. i just want to say, this gets to a very deep, important issue in terms of what we learned from iraq, which is, was it the fruit of a rotten tree or was it that the implementation went wrong somewhere? i think it was a rotten tree and it was implemented terribly wrong? i think the rotten tree part of it is crucial. i think zainab is certainly right. there were many iraqis that were thrilled at overthrowing a dictatorship. that s not something forgotten but not known across the united states. there is the iconic photo of
director ofef heading the anti- unit. zainab shelby, her father served as sa dad s personal phi lot. phyllis bennett , matt a armla iraq from 2007 to 2009 and author of a book, kaboom. today is the last day of the legal framework where u.s. forces were permitted to operate in iraq. few mainstream media paid much attention to the troop s departure or the milestone that today represents. it will not be remembered and there will be no kiss in times square. no one, perhaps rick perry, seems interested in holding a parade. even the movies about iraq go
shyite dominated party, is the ruling party but the sunni coalition had different government posts. there is now a fracturing. he seems to be saying that there should be a coalition government. the only way to have effective governance is for one party where someone can be clearly in control of the government. zainab, you seem to disagree with that. no. i have a question for ghassan. you are saying at one point, you wished that america would extend its stay in iraq. what we have right now, ghassan, is a result of what america has done. i am just curious, what part, how are you optimistic, why do you think american can help iraqis get better governmental conditions than what we can do on our own? i agree it is messy. it is like every situation, we can get out of it. what makes you think america can fix it for us better than we can
joining us from baghdad is rasan agna, an iraqi that worked as an interpreter for the u.s. army and is now a producer for npr. for safety reasons, he did not wish to show his face. good morning. rasan. how are you? thank you so much for joining us. i really appreciate it. it is my pleasure. the first question we ve been looking at what is being left behind in iraq. zainab says she was there two months ago. we were discussing about. it seems in a day to day level, there is a relatively low level of terrorist attacks or bombing or street attacks but the country does seem in political crisis right now. you have the prime minister accusing the vice president of being an insurgent agent and the vice president having to plflee.