as soon as i need it. yuri, thank you for sharing all those emotions and all those amazing details with us. thank you, thank you. thank you so much. stay safe. thank you so much. thank you. well, let us zoom out now and see the bigger picture and get some analysis about what is going on with the former international development secretary rory stewart, who is now a senior fellow at the jackson institute for global affairs at yale. hi, rory. hello. i have got to ask, where are you in the world at the moment, then? i m right up in northern jordan, just on the edge of syria, so i am speaking to you on a dodgy internet connectionjust on the jordanian syrian border. 0k, people. i am working here with syrian refugees but it is extraordinary, i think, the most amazing reaction even here to what is happening in ukraine. i was in a very small cafe right opposite the golan heights and they were
he said that fact that his family survived was a billion to one chance, there is some good news, the family have been reunited and they are hoping to make their way out of kyiv and we are going to follow theirjourney on ukrainecast in forthcoming editions. so, do download and do subscribe. well, why don t we get an update from somebody who is living through this and joining us now from kyiv, the ukrainian capital, is yuri. hi, yuri. hello, hello guys. now, up until last week, you were basically like me and laura, you were a journalist. yes, i was a journalist for more than 20 years of my life. it is the case of you were a journalist, though, now you re kind of dedicating your life to something else. last week, thursday, at five o clock in the morning, i was woken up by missiles which were flying through my windows. it was explosions all around.
playing ukrainian orthodox music which i had never heard injordan before. wow, that s amazing. so the ripples are just spreading out all over in all sorts of ways. that conversation with yuri is going to stick in my mind for a very long time. i am just wondering, though, in all the places you have been in the world, afghanistan, etc, is thatjust how people talk when they are becoming the resistance? is that just what this does to them? yeah, it does. i think the thing to bear in mind with yuri isjust how terrifying what is happening there is. he is staying away from the windows because obviously they are very dangerous, glass is dangerous in that kind of situation, and he will be worried that russian tanks are coming down the road, and he will be worried that he won t be able to speak to you again, and it is a very strange and precious conversation that you have had, there, and a very brave man. but of course, he, like many of the other people he s talking about, are not trained, and e
i can t understand. i do not want to disappoint you, yuri, but the rhetoric from government ministers in the uk about a no fly zone is so strong. i just cannot see them changing their minds, certainly not in the short term. as i told you, you know, it is like choosing between war and dishonour. if you are choosing dishonour, war will come soon to you. when you think about that gun you have got in your apartment now, when do you think you will be using it? what you think it will feel like to have to pull the trigger? where do you think you will be and what will be happening around you when you first to use it? for sure i will not have any regrets if i kill russian occupants, for sure. i don t know where it will be, when it will be, or if it will be at all, but for sure, i will not have any regrets or hesitate, i will use it