attorneys. one, two and, three. some of those people are identifiable. there s also trump family members. there s a pack representative. and in some cases, we know for those folks are. for example, most people know who evan corcoran is buy the description in the indictment. but some of those other folks who are described in very vague sentence having to do with where they worked and how, some of those people could be vulnerable to indictment themselves. i m thinking about the case. remember love pardus is one of the two folks who worked with rudy giuliani to unleash information from ukraine that was damaging to joe biden, when he and his coconspirator, fruman, or indicted, there was a mention of a foreign national one, who was involved in a straw donor scheme with them. that person wasn t himself indicted until almost two years later. but indeed, he was indicted, and on the same facts alleged in the original indictment, ali. andrew, let s talk about what could happen to donald trum
it is a violation of law to mishandle that information. now, the indictment is not specifically charged and home with mask handling classified information. it refers to national defense information. that is important. because it means that donald trump cannot say oh, i declassified this stuff, because national defense information doesn t necessarily need to be classified. it just has to be information related to the national defense. and over and over again, he made clear through his campaign rhetoric and when he was president, he understood the penalty is for mishandling this stuff and yet he did it anyway as soon as he left office. lisa, let s talk a little bit about the charges that donald trump and walks nada are facing. nobody knew who it walt nauta was two days ago. one of these charges is a conspiracy to obstruct assess, and the indictment itself makes reference to other conspirators, quote, known and unknown to the
fall, america s succession threat and how to restore our nation. be sure to join me tonight, i ll be back to continue our special coverage of the indictment of donald trump, i ll be joined by my colleagues, katie phang, jonathan capehart, at least menendez, simone and i will be there to. that s a theme tonight, only on msnbc. msnbstraight ahead, the latest n the 38 count federal indictment against the former president and his aide, but we know right now, what we should expect in the coming days, and what effect is going to have on the future of american democracy. another hour of velshi begins right now. good morning. it s saturday, june 10th, i m ali velshi. we now have at our disposal 49 pages of rich detail, including photographs, transcripts of recordings and text messages, alleging a post presidential crime spree by donald trump. the indictment unsealed yesterday afternoon revealed that both former president
conspiracy to share nuclear soviet union, back in 1953. notably, the prosecutor who advocated for the execution was roy cohn, who went on to become a mentor to the young donald j trump. which brings us to the latest american to face charges in violation of the espionage act, the former president donald j trump. the charges against trump fall under section 793 of the espionage act, which prohibits the gathering, translating or losing of defense information, and is punishable by up to ten years in prison. according to the indictment, the documents found in donald trump s storage rooms, a ballroom and bathroom included information on american nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities of the united states and its allies to military attack, and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack. donald trump is not a whistleblower or a journalist, or a foreign agents. he didn t leak a military report to the press for the betterment of the nation, north
independent, who was one of the first journalists to report out the details of donald trump s indictment earlier this week. thanks to both of you for being here, andrew, let me start with you because i have been following your reporting very closely all week and i thought to myself, wow, this is either going to be who we are making stuff for andrew or he s in a lot of trouble if he got it wrong. you didn t get it wrong. you had a very right about how this was going to unfold, and when this indictment came off, out, this was required reading. this is remarkable detail, not just about the things donald trump did, but the degree to which he understood the allegations of what he did were wrong. yeah, one of the things that he noticed first in the indictment prosecutors use donald trump s war warrants against him, going back to his 26 campaign and his presence in? see he made clear he understood that you can t just do whatever you want with classified information. you have to safeguard it