i am jonathan capehart. exactly seven years ago today, june 26 2015, the supreme court handed down the historic ruling in which gave same-sex couples a constitutional right to marry. an amazing leap for equality five decades after the stonewall riots upheld the modern gay rights movement, just a half hour from the i-seven. later this evening, in unprecedented display of acceptance, the white house was emblazoned with rainbow colors of lgbtq pride. but if this is a high-water mark of its nation living up to its ideals, what do we call it happened on friday, when the supreme court s conservative supermajority overturned roe v. wade? as a result, abortion will soon be illegal in as many as 26 states. in louisiana, abortion is illegal after federalization. and kentucky, it is now a felony to perform, or attempt to, perform an abortion. and in one clinic, abortion serves as immediately, stranding woman in rating rooms. what does the of roe, have to do with lgbtq rights? ever
or not, but i say i am not enthusiastic about a lot of politicians. in my mind, they kind of all suck, i will vote for the one that sucks less? that is not very optimistic, that point of view. it is hard to get excited. but at the same time, in the interest of being pragmatic, i, george, you, jonathan, and you rashad, you will not get everything that you want, we will not get everything we want, that is the nature of the beast. joining us now is stacey stevenson, ceo of family equality. you perspective on this. because, you know, george is expressing, there are folks who are saying, you know, i am not enthusiastic about these folks. george says, look. you do not get everything you want, we must be pragmatic. do you think that the supreme court s decision that overturned roe, where justice thomas said we should go after griswold, the right to contraception, and lawrence,
conversation did not happen. so if the conversation happened, as most of us know it did, then that means the current president of the united states is actively conspiring with a foreign entity in order to rig an election in the united states of america. not only is that problematic, some would argue that is treason against our democracy. all right. ned, you re shaking your head there. i won t ask the question. you can respond to what rashad said. here we go again, phillip. the whistleblower didn t have direct knowledge of the actual communication. we have no proof that there was ever any actual quit pro quo mentioned from trump. if you don t investigate biden, i ll withhold this quarter billion in military aid. there s absolutely no proof of that. i have to tell you, there are a couple of things. spare me the moral lectures from the left about being concerned about foreign sources because people don t want to talk about the dnc soliciting for dirt on
happened. we know that s what giuliani did. this is outrageous. you have never seen anything like this from any president. joining me now to discuss this. progressive commentator and radio talk show host rashad richie and ned ryan, former speech writer for president george w. bush. good morning to you both. good morning. good morning. i ll start with you rashad. did biden accomplish what he needed to with that response yesterday? i think he did. he needed to be forceful and aggressive. let s be honest, phillip, we all know trump did it. let s look at the facts. you have an intelligence officer making a complaint against the united states president. you do not see the current president of the ukraine saying it did not happen. you only have the foreign minister saying he doesn t think there was any pressure, but even the foreign minister of the ukraine is not saying that the