realise, do you remember the moment he realised he was going to lose, it was over? ., ~ , was over? labour keep losing, we have lost four was over? labour keep losing, we have lost four elections was over? labour keep losing, we have lost four elections in - was over? labour keep losing, we have lost four elections in a - was over? labour keep losing, we have lost four elections in a row. l have lost four elections in a row. only three moments really, 1945, 1964 and 1997 when labour has run and we won big. we made huge change. why have we lost four elections in a row? people didn t trust us. on a whole range of different areas. they prefer the others to us. we have got to look at ourselves and learn those lessons and turn those things around. as clement attlee did, as harold wilson did and as tony blair did. that is what i want to learn from, what we did on those three occasions. i from, what we did on those three occasions. . from, what we did on those three occasions from, what
utterly failing in that mission. there is an intriguing phrase in the pamphlet which has been chosen deliberately. take back control, it is used by keir starmer in his long essay that that s what voters want and he thinks they haven t had, so are you saying in some way to people who voted to leave, i know what you voted leave, i know you wanted to take back control, but you haven t but labour will help you take back control, is that the message? the thing about my constituency, average earnings is about £24,000 a year, 2/3 of the national average, a bit less than that may be. a lot of them are in insecure work and a lot are having to balance work with uncertain hours, with childcare. do people feel they have control in their lives? they certainly don t. do they want more control? absolutely. that is what people want
problem was nothing to do with going big or small, it s because he didn t listen to people and you didn t like lots of people s attitudes. whether it was on immigration, labour appeared veryjudgmental. whether it was on benefits, labour appeared veryjudgmental. there was a sense, clearly on brexit, labour didn t like a lot of the people they needed to vote for them to mark keir starmer recognises this and that is why he spent the summer going up and down the country meeting people who haven t voted for us. fin down the country meeting people who haven t voted for us. haven t voted for us. on some occasions. haven t voted for us. on some occasions. for haven t voted for us. on some occasions, for many haven t voted for us. on some occasions, for many years - haven t voted for us. on some occasions, for many years and j haven t voted for us. on some i occasions, for many years and on some occasions for some of them, the last election was the 1st time they had voted labour. we hav
in their lives. when you were on the front bench under ed miliband he said things that would appeal to those sort of voters but got you into trouble, as i recall? you said you didn t want labour to be the party of the unemployed. the ruestion party of the unemployed. the question that party of the unemployed. the: question that was put to me, is that what labour is? is thatjust what labour is? they have got to be broader than that, we are the party of working people, labour created the working state welfare state to offer a safety net for people when they are out of work. share to offer a safety net for people when they are out of work. are you t in: to when they are out of work. are you trying to say when they are out of work. are you trying to say there when they are out of work. are you trying to say there is when they are out of work. are you trying to say there is a when they are out of work. are you trying to say there is a danger - when they are out of work. are you