tammy, there are so many parts of this story that are insane. just the bluntness of the criminal talking about it, then you have the prosecutor who s probably going to go to jail trying to use covid funds. she could buy two houses or something. perhaps some of it is because they all know that eventually they re going to get caught at what they re doing and if they have these standards where you don t go to jail, maybe she won t either. at the same time this guy might have a problem with the idea he s not unique. that now he is just kind of like everyone else. you can just go and do whatever you want. he thought that maybe that was something he could do. but nobody else can do it, but now it s like everyone can. gutfeld: that s true. that s maybe part of the problem. when you ve got the very bad guys who know that they re bad, they know this is awful, they know they should be punished and the leadership is saying no, you just go ahead and go on, part of it could be trying to set a
you. the office of special counsel said you violated it. let me know when the jail sentence starts. the white house calls today s report deeply flawed and objects on a number of grounds, including a violation of conway s free speech rights. joining me is former special adviser to president obama, van jones, the white house council s office under president obama, daniel jacobson. kellyanne conway dismisses this entire line of questioning over the hatch act, blah, blah, blah, let me know when the sentence begins. does she have anything to worry about? she is making the joke that there is no criminal there is no penalty, that you don t go to jail for violating the hatch act. the problem is i think we now are in a world where we have to remind people why we pass these laws. we used to say listen, you break the law, that s bad. everybody gets it. now it s break the law, i don t really care. why do we care about this? we do not want people who have
entire line of action over the hatch act, blah, blah, blah, let me know when the sentence begins. does she have anything to worry about? she is making the joke that there is no criminal there is no penalty, that you don t go to jail for violating the hatch act. the problem is i think we now are in a world where we have to remind people why we pass these laws. we used to say listen, you break the law, that s bad. everybody gets it. now it s break the law, i don t really care. why do we care about this? we do not want people who have the imprimatur of the u.s. government who are being paid by taxpayers to do the people s business to abuse that office, who abuse that opportunity, to abuse that platform to play petty politics to crap on other politicians, to try to put the opposition party in the gutter. that s what happens in countries that we look down on and say you guys need to have better democratic norms. government officials shouldn t be playing politics. kellyanne conway doesn
wanted a tax deduction for th r fugazi donation, it may have never triggered legal suspicion. if they hadn t been such pigs in, not only do i want to pay you for fixing the test, because there s no law against cheating on your s.a.t.s. that s about how the admissions boards and how the standards you know, you don t go to jail well, apparently, if you did it this way, there was a law against it. because of the mail fraud, irs right. because of the use of different systems in the furtherance of a fraud with this fraudulent donation to a nonexistent charity, or charity that existed but existed for a different purpose. so you have to learn to police this more. because people have to know that passage to a better tomorrow is a real part of the dream. yep. when i was look for one of my guests coming up is frank bruni, who is getting placed in the studio now and he talked about, he interviewed someone and talked about, indeed, inner city he says, inner city schools aren t send