but josh, you ve watched probably thousands of these interviews. and sometimes what people don t say is just as important as what they do say. reporter: what javier either would not or could not say were these words i did not kill cathy torrez. he says, i don t know who did. that s not what i asked, javier. did you kill cathy torrez? i don t know who did. and we play that several times to where he d finally say, i didn t do it. you didn t do what, javier? i didn t do what you say i did. reporter: can t say the words, killed cathy ? correct. then it moved to, did you put cathy s body in the trunk of the car? i don t know who did. finally he sat there and he put his fist in front of his mouth to keep himself from talking. reporter: but javier had already managed to talk his way into an arrest for murder. nearly four years after cathy s death, he was booked into the orange county jail.
and i went and i sat in cathy s car and sat in the backseat and waited for them. and they came out and then i left. and that was really his only contact that he could give us with cathy s car. reporter: but he doesn t fold up like a house of cards and say, all right, fine. you got me. you re right. but josh, you ve watched probably thousands of these interviews. and sometimes what people don t say is just as important as what they do say. reporter: what javier either would not or could not say were these words i did not kill cathy torrez. he says, i don t know who did. that s not what i asked, javier. did you kill cathy torrez? i don t know who did. and we play that several times to where he d finally say, i didn t do it. you didn t do what, javier? i didn t do what you say i did. reporter: can t say the words, killed cathy ? correct. then it moved to, did you put cathy s body in the trunk of the car?
i did not kill cathy torrez. he says, i don t know who did. that s not what i asked, javier. did you kill cathy torrez? i don t know who did. and we play that several times to where he d finally say, i didn t do it. you didn t do what, javier? i didn t do what you say i did. reporter: can t say the words, killed cathy ? correct. then it moved to, did you put cathy s body in the trunk of the car? i don t know who did. finally he sat there and he put his fist in front of his mouth to keep himself from talking. reporter: but javier had already managed to talk his way into an arrest for murder. nearly four years after cathy s death, he was booked into the orange county jail. cathy s family was stunned when they heard the news. tina included. remember, she was still married to armando, who was sam s brother and javier s cousin. yes. that that was a shock. that was a shock.
interviews. and sometimes what people don t say is just as important as what they do say. reporter: what javier either would not or could not say were these words i did not kill cathy torrez. he says, i don t know who did. that s not what i asked, javier. did you kill cathy torrez? i don t know who did. and we play that several times to where he d finally say, i didn t do it. you didn t do what, javier? i didn t do what you say i did. reporter: can t say the words, killed cathy ? correct. then it moved to, did you put cathy s body in the trunk of the car? i don t know who did. finally he sat there and he put his fist in front of his mouth to keep himself from talking. reporter: but javier had already managed to talk his way into an arrest for murder. nearly four years after cathy s death, he was booked into the orange county jail. cathy s family was stunned when they heard the news. tina included.
contact that he could give us with cathy s car. reporter: but he doesn t fold up like a house of cards and say, all right, fine. you got me. you re right. but josh, you ve watched probably thousands of these interviews. and sometimes what people don t say is just as important as what they do say. reporter: what javier either would not or could not say were these words i did not kill cathy torrez. he says, i don t know who did. that s not what i asked, javier. did you kill cathy torrez? i don t know who did. and we play that several times to where he d finally say, i didn t do it. you didn t do what, javier? i didn t do what you say i did. reporter: can t say the words, killed cathy ? correct. then it moved to, did you put cathy s body in the trunk of the car? i don t know who did. finally he sat there and he put his fist in front of his mouth to keep himself from talking. reporter: but javier had already managed to talk his way into an arrest for mu