fcc, harvey pitts, and basically i had worked with in private practice and harvey and i together said, look, no one is the lead sled dog here. we re a team, we re a partnership and all the market, equities markets, commodities markets, we will do this together. we did. neil: but things were pretty banged up, right? we forget that, right? they were very banged up, neil. when number seven came down late in the afternoon, it basically put 140 west street, which was the communications hub for the entire securities industry, put it out of commission. neil: you couldn t trade if you wanted to. no. and the reality was, until we got power and until we got communications connectivity, we weren t going to be able to trade, but trading, neil, and this is where the public partnership was so important, because right from the get-go, mayor giuliani, governor