both had only been attorneys for about five years and apparently had never handled a capital case. jordan: at preliminary hearings, defense and prosecution would get into shouting matches with each other. woman: they re matters of public record, sir. there s presently pending in that court these liars. judge tynan and i did not get along, to say the least. he was always mocking us. he, to me, did not have what they call judicial temperament. he would get pissed off. yochelson: daniel and arturo hernandez made statements that the prosecution considered were unsupported by the evidence flat out lying or going for publicity. phil halpin, who was lead counsel, lead prosecutor very knowledgeable, knows how to handle a case, but there was really contention between the hernandezes and phil. and i think a lot of that was just natural, given the nature of the case and the stakes that were involved.
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martin: you ve got all these agencies that you ve got to coordinate. you ve got all these victims that you ve got to care for. this was a monumental effort, and then you add to it that this is a capital murder case. the preparations are absolutely incredible. yochelson: he was initially represented by two appointed members of the l.a. county public defender s office. great attorneys. he had excellent representation. but for whatever reason, ramirez s family chose to fire the public defender s office and bring in a series of private counsel. first issue that came up was who was paying for this defense, because mounting a capital defense under any circumstances is tremendously expensive. hernandez: and then he got mr. gallegos for a couple of weeks. woman: my understanding, mr. ramirez that you would like to have mr. gallegos as your attorney. is that correct? yes. mr. gallegos apparently had offered him
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martin: so while law enforcement has this great clue as to who it is that might have done this, they also know that the clock is running. linedecker: later that night, while they were still investigating the break-in, they got another call that a young woman named tsai-lian yu had been attacked. but these were not in the same jurisdiction, so police weren t able to make the connection. she was a 30-year-old law student, an immigrant from taiwan. yochelson: she was parking her car on a street. a man parked behind her, jumped out of his car, tried to drag her out of her car, and so he shot her, and then left the location. when police arrived, they found her sprawled on the concrete next to her car. martin: she d been shot multiple times.