to survive this is to keep quiet and somehow, yeah, somehow fight for survival. so, i have to. sadly, we re almost out of time, evgenia. i have to end, because i m so mindful that this is very personal and very difficult for you, i have to end with just a personal thought. you ve described the difficulties that you and vladimir have confronted. vladimir is now in prison, faces the possibility of a very long prison sentence. where s the hope? the hope is, the hope is in the fact that everyone has finally realised, or was forced to stop closing their eyes to who mr putin truly is, and now we understand that we re basically in the same world, because ukrainians are obviously not fighting forjust their land. they re fighting for democracy. they re fighting this global fight of the good against the evil. and we need to do everything in our power to help them. and we need to. everyone who has an opportunity to act, like i believe i do right now, anyone who is able to help in any way has to s
and against russia. and there is also belarus. that s very much involved as well, because the number of political prisoners in belarus is growing just as quickly as it does in russia. but if i may, if i may, evgenia, you raised a very interesting point about what is going on inside russia. and i m very mindful that when vladimir went back, you know, in the six weeks, two months after the invasion of ukraine, he said it would be, to use his word, cowardly, not to be side by side with those brave russians who were protesting the war. and at the time, it is true that there were thousands of russians in different towns and cities who were prepared to go to the streets and voice their opposition. but we, frankly, see very little of that today. and i m just wondering whether you, as an activist yourself, who fights for democracy in russia and whether vladimir too, whether actually you are deeply
now on bbc news hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. in russia, voicing opposition to putin s war in ukraine is a crime. it can mean years injail. imagine, then, the resolve of a russian opposition activist who returned to his homeland after the ukraine invasion in order to speak out against the putin regime from within. not only that, vladimir kara murza had already survived two apparent poisonings inside russia. he is now languishing in a russian prison. his wife, evgenia kara murza, is my guest today. has putin s repression effectively neutralised meaningful opposition?
they re fighting this global fight of the good against the evil. and we need to do everything in our power to help them. and we need to. everyone who has an opportunity to act, like i believe i do right now, anyone who is able to help in any way has to stand up and do something. and that is my hope, that if we work together to bring down the regime, it will collapse, sooner or later. and evgenia kara murza, i thank you so much forjoining me on hardtalk. we have to end there. thank you. thank you very much.
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