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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:52:00

did you worry that they might think that you could have enlisted some help? no. reporter: hired someone? i knew that i could account for my whereabouts. i didn t know how they could even think i was an accomplice to something like that, no. reporter: he said he was an open book with investigators. in fact, when they asked if anyone else knew the layout of his home, besides his pal lance, derrick gave them another name. joshua veal. josh was a young man, just somebody that needed a job. didn t have a whole bunch of construction experience and everything. but i always needed someone to help clean up and straighten up the job sites and such. reporter: so he gave joshua work in the general contracting business he ran on the side and, later, a place to say. we saw a young man that needed some direction and we tried to help him out the best we could. reporter: for a few months, joshua lived with the dorseys. but derrick said the arrangement soured when joshua took a wrong tur

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:55:00

didn t mention kim s murder at first. i see you get home from 10:00, 11:00 from jail. reporter: did it feel, though, like it wasn t a friendly conversation? yes, ma am. reporter: like you were being treated kind of as a suspect type? i was already under the impression i was treated as a suspect for something. but i had no clue what for. you spent friday night at the house? yeah. you didn t go anywhere friday night? reporter: joshua said he d spent the weekend hanging out with friends. so you go to wing it saturday to watch the football game or what? yeah, i think i did. anybody else up there that can vouch that you were up there saturday? probably so. now were you supposed to go to work for anybody on sunday? reporter: they asked why he hadn t shown up at the gas station to meet derrick for work that sunday morning. surveillance showed derrick at the station but not joshua. where was he? yeah. i didn t make it today. i kind of slept in and

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:53:00

were more fun than working in the hot sun every day. reporter: that must have been heartbreaking for you because you really wanted to see this young man succeed. it was. you wanted to shake sense into him, but people have to make their own mistakes in order to learn. reporter: he told joshua to leave but said they remained friends. he d call up and say, hey, mr. d., i need to do some work. and i was more than glad to help him. he did a good job when he showed up. reporter: yet joshua couldn t let go of his vice. he was picked up for drug possession and released one day before kim was murdered. that really got the detectives attention. did it make you question him, this guy on your radar was just in jail? yes. does he need money? does he need something? reporter: and joshua had also been kicked out of the dorsey house. yes. reporter: he could be angry by that. of course. reporter: not the best house guest? not the best houseguest. reporter: there was more and t

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:54:00

never showed. at that point we set out trying to put our hands on joshua. reporter: and he s just out there. no one seems to know where he is. that s correct. right. reporter: is that a sign that there might be something up there? that this guy didn t show and now no one can find him? yes, absolutely. reporter: and right around the time that kim dorsey was murdered. right. the morning that she s found, he can t be found. reporter: but he didn t stay hidden for long. later that same day, derrick told investigators that joshua had just called. the two men arranged to meet at a local restaurant. but detective larry kuczkowski decided to surprise the young man instead. we were sitting there waiting on him. and as soon as he got out of the car, introduced myself to him and said, we need to have a talk. reporter: this is joshua veal, and he remembers that moment very differently. were you scared? yes, ma am. six, seven undercover cars come pull up and ask about you. t

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