are granted on federal lands. we have to be very practical with ward to refining capacity. whether it was weather related or a business decision by the oil and gas companies. we need to increase that refining capacity right now. martha: interesting response there. so your throwing the full weight of your support behind hakeem jefferys potential leadership of your party in the house. big shoes to fill for nancy pelosi. is that your choice? yes. hakeem has the intelligence, the work ethic and he has the empathy to bring people together. you know, we re too divided as a country. we need leaders that can bring people together and get things done. that s what hakeem jefferys represents to me. i m excited if he decides to announce his candidacy. martha: thank you, congressman. thank you. sandra: so what does this
all of these schemes begin the same way. madoff did as well. sandra: you and i covered madoff. you lose a lot of money and you think you might make it up by stealing money from someplace else and you just keep doubling down on the same bad bets and never ends well. sandra: you can make the case that they believe the money is there and that they will come up with it. they also believe since they were so right in the past of their own infall ability. they double down. it looks like because we don t know. one of the interesting things here, how did he sell himself for so long? 30 years old. his parents were born on the stanford campus. his girlfriend was managing the math behind this and boasted how she used like second grade math to do the finances. i don t think she was the main sales point. what he really did is he hoodwinked scores of journalists, scores of regulators, everybody. sandra: gisele and tom brady.
he had this veneer of wokeness, that he was a guy, a billionaire, that was ready to give back to the world. he used that effectively to push be a. it helped build his sort of image as a great capitalist. capitalists just want to make money, give money back to shareholders and people. now we re in a weird state in corporate america that you have to be woke and kneel for a black lives matter movement to be accepted. he used that. that was a shtick. every one of these guys, whether it s elizabeth homes sandra: a picture of him laying around on a bean bag. and he talks all of this woke mumbo jumbo. sandra: the democrats that received the money from him, the donations from him, you have to think about the hypocrisy of that. this is a guy who he lived offshore. he lived in the bahamas. a major tax haven. the thing that democrats
senator mitt romney and republicans. work on getting things done. don t have all the crazy hearings. you talk to people said they elected me to hold hearings on hunter biden and the withdrawal from afghanistan. they say they re going to focus on that because there s a limit to what they can get done legislatively. sandra: interesting, shannon. you have gridlock and you have the forcing of the two parties to work across the aisle. as far as the priorities are concerned, you have inflation top of the list. we had a big discussion on that. what about crime? what about the border? what are we hearing about those major issues for americans? i think the border will get a ton of focus. there s those in the republican party now that they control the house and well before they did saying it s time to call these leaders in. some of them have been there-to-accounts for what s going on at the border. the numbers are historic and astronomical. democrats and republicans in
there s so much more to be done. the first problem is getting a full assessment of what s taking place. we know there s all sorts of bad actors that have stolen people s private information and filed unemployment insurance claims in their names. we don t know the extent of the problem and we re not going to solve it until we know the full extend of the problem. there s multiple bills introduced by republicans on capitol hill to provide the tools we need but they ve been swept aside by house democrats and senate democrats. they have not gotten the attention that they need. hopefully with the republican house of representatives, at least we can start to shine a light on this massive problem. sandra: the statement that they issued seems to be an admission that this happened. why are they not providing the rest of the data? a great question. we have gotten stonewalled by so many entities. everybody seems to want to sweep