budget in march, it could be incredibly damaging for the country, so what we re going to do is make sure we focus on what will grow the economy, fund public services and ultimately allow us to have a tax system that is fair and rewards hard work, which is what keir starmer said today that he wanted to be able to do, but it would be irresponsible of us at this stage to make promises we don t know how we re going to keep. we will do so when we know how we are going to pay for things also thank you very much for talking to our viewers tonight, thangam debbonaire. let s talk now to the conservative mp bob seely again. a lot to get through, mr seely, in limited time, as always. thank you for being with us. how would you describe the state of the country after 1a years of conservative government? arnie country after 14 years of conservative government? ~ . ., conservative government? we have had a ve , ve conservative government? we have had a very. very tough conservative government? we h
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standing up against. what what keir starmer claimed he was standing up against. standing up against. what i am heaļ¬na standing up against. what i am hearing from standing up against. what i am hearing from people standing up against. what i am hearing from people up - standing up against. what i am hearing from people up and - standing up against. what i am i hearing from people up and down standing up against. what i am - hearing from people up and down this country is that they feel that the tories have done nothing for them. when i ask people, and i do this regularly, just tell me honestly, is there anything at all that you can point to that you think is better about your life after 1a years of tory governments, and time and again, people say no. not only are things not better, they are worse. they are worse. 0k, let me point out. if i may. sir keir starmer said today, voters can reject pointless populist gestures. was furlough a pointless populist gesture? indie furlough a p
people about that. ila. you have to be straightforward with people about that. you have to be straightforward with people about that. no, absolutely, i am not going people about that. no, absolutely, i am not going to people about that. no, absolutely, i am not going to do people about that. no, absolutely, i am not going to do what people about that. no, absolutely, i am not going to do what keir - people about that. no, absolutely, i. am not going to do what keir starmer or thangam am not going to do what keir starmer or thangam debbonaire hasjust done now and or thangam debbonaire hasjust done now and talking absolute nonsense to you. now and talking absolute nonsense to you the now and talking absolute nonsense to you the tax now and talking absolute nonsense to you. the tax burden is absolutely continuing you. the tax burden is absolutely continuing to rise, what i am saying is we continuing to rise, what i am saying is we are continuing to rise, what i am s