it s an old cia expression when they want to acknowledge something but not take full responsibility for it. if it was carried out by the russians themselves as a false flag trying to blame you yan cranians, they would have denied it strongly and immediately and ukraine would have known if it had helicopters flying a mission into russian airspace. let s assume it did happen because it s obviously a nonconformation, confirmimation or denial. so, do you think this is going to precipitate a russian counterattack or some sort of retaliation? are we in an escalation here? reporter: it s hard to know because russia is already attacking openly cities. it s openly attacking hospitals. it s attacked schools. is so, it s already in apopen war against the civilian population. we were in a village heading towards that russian border and