now hopefully will become i would accept that in a heartbeat as well. a path to citizenship, a path to legalization. whatever it is, he s for it. however, today he releases a book on immigration that he s co-authored where he writes, a grant of citizenship is an undeserving reward for conduct that we cannot afford to encourage. he even told nbc s matt lauer yesterday morning much the same thing. so now he s against it. right? well, no. fast forward a few hours to his interview with my colleague chuck todd, and here is his response. i think a path to legal status where people can come out from the shadows is satisfactory in that regard. i ll say this for mitt romney, once he flipped, he tended not to flip back. joining us now is david corn, washington bureau sheaf for mother jones magazine and lili gil valletta, co-founder of xl alliance and a hispanic market expert. good afternoon to both of you. david, how bad was this rollout