pope francis may be new to the job, but his influence has not gone unnoticed. forbes has just named him one of the world s most powerful people. pope francis on the list at number four. take a look, behind vladimir putin, shocking a lot of folks with the top position. president obama at number two. number three, xe jinping, number four, the pope, and five, the woman in the headlines a lot this week, german chancellor angela merkel. joining me is the executive editor of forbes magazine. michael, nice to see you. let s talk about putin just a minute. but do me a favor, lift the veil. how do you all at forbes arrive at this list? that s a really good question. it s kind of a complicated process, and i ll give you the really short version. okay. it s the collective votes of eight editors on four different