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MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber January 19, 2022 23:31:00

of evidence on a matter of this import. bottom line translation, anything donald trump wanted to block related to the january 6th investigation is clear to go from the archives. do you have an understanding of how quickly that happens? i know the documents have been identified, do you have a sense of how quickly they can be transmitted to the committee? don t. the opinion itself does not speak to the timeline in any way. so that becomes one of the things between the archives and the congress. and the congress view is, they know what they want, they ve identified it, it exists. but whether the archives has a process or they need a certain amount of time, i don t have it in front of me. it s interesting to emphasize, there are presidential questions that are close calls, difficult

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber January 19, 2022 23:21:00

acknowledge, there s some things he would like to do differently. i think he oozed relatability and being a good guy. i think they should do it more often, maybe not two hours, keep it to an hour. but do it more often. and i wish that every answer to every question he would have tied in the economic success of his administration. and the infrastructure bill. and this is what is driving me crazy about my former friends on capitol hill. we have the most jobs ever in history created in the first year of his presidency. we have record growth. we have hundreds of millions of people who have gotten the vaccine. we ve got an infrastructure bill that is finally going to fix led

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber January 19, 2022 23:06:00

own achievements, when the gdp and unemployment rate and job creation, rising wages alone, any one of those things would be the basis for insufferable chest pounding for a republican president who was claiming credit for it. and democrats just aren t wired to do it. i just it takes a sort of it takes a sort of political personality to do it. and president biden had those notes today to do that kind of bragging. but he s more of an empathizer than a braggart. the other piece of advice i know he s received is to stop treating the pandemic like a problem he has to solve. to say it s endemic, we re going to live with it. he wants to fix it, he wants to end it. i spoke to an official today, who said, sure, we can make it

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber January 19, 2022 23:34:00

but i m going to emily and then nick on this. they say, emily, in the opinion here, which was written here, i want to say, yeah, chief justice writing it. the privilege claim would not succeed even under the nixon and select committee tests. even if donald trump were the incumbent, if he were still president, they agree with the lower courts that it said his claims were so weak, he would not be able to hold back this evidence. your response or analysis of that? well, i think the nixon history is important here, because the reason we have this law from 1978 about the public owning presidential records was concern that congress had about the level of secrecy that president nixon was trying to maintain when he was in office, related to watergate. and the 1970s are the moment, post-nixon, where we get a lot

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber January 19, 2022 23:09:00

to political accountability. and it s easy i think it is easy and fair to ding any political leader who doesn t follow the science and makes dumb moves that make this covid situation worse. because they re defying science, ignoring or misunderstanding it. if you re following science, making your best efforts, it doesn t mean it will be a linear response. there may be some things you wish you had done better as the science grows. it s a nuanced, gray area thing, and it s hard to do it right. and he got so many questions that sounded exactly the same on that point. that didn t succeed in getting him to break from the view he holds. rachel, i know how hard it is for you to do anything other than prepare for your show at this time. thank you from the bottom of my heart for spending time with us today. great to see you, my friend. i ll tell you in advance,

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