report says that he has bruises on him and a broken nose, mary katharine, the police would have to be very, very sure that because of the complicated law in florida that you know, if you feel in danger you can use deadly force and the guy with the broken nose and all of this stuff as his lawyer contends, the arrest thing isn t as easy as all that. now florida has taken it away from the sanford police and assigned a special prosecutor which i think is exactly the right thing to do. let the florida authorities, the state authorities investigate, and, juan, if they believe that there is probable cause to make an arrest, i m sure they will. what do you say mary katharine? it sounds like what we had is a story with a try tragic end that looks like it did have some mishandling by the police there are a lot of ifs how they went through that investigation and came to that determination. a lot of people say the moment that zimmerman pursued trayvon the idea of stand your ground
look, i think a lot of people are responding saying i understand. bill: i want to know what you think mary katharine? was that a smart thing to do. i think he was going to be asked about it frankly. bill: mary katharine, was that a smart thing to do for the president? he is not generally good at talking about these things when he talked about skip gates he ended up being very very wrong about that i think it s important for him to be careful about it he is not always careful about it. hold on. bill: i m taking that as a no that s not a smart thing. here is the problem. here expectation dictated by the president we all react like al sharpton it becomes a situation where we cannot soberly review the facts. bill: was that a smart thing to do for the president to make comments on the occasion. smart politically. the fact that he personalized
exist. he was actually purr side him while he was on the 11 call. bill: what are you taking to prove that, mary katharine. what we have on the record is a guy who saw the confrontation, the two were rolling around on the ground. no. we have those witnesses as well. the larger part of what this has become is a national conversation. bottom line is national conversation are not about having a conversation. often political litmus tests and tools to get things done by politicians and political activists and often devoid of facts. bill: wouldn t you say mary katharine that right now and as far as the public is concerned, we just don t know enough to convict anybody on television? you know, we have to be very, very careful. this is the thing. we saw this in the duke lacrosse case. we saw this? the case where the cop came out and turned out to be a totally different person. bill: being already convicted there. in cnn i m not sure where they are. certainly some inflammatory
being part of it shouldn t exist. he was actually purr side him while he was on the 11 call. bill: what are you taking to prove that, mary katharine. what we have on the record is a guy who saw the confrontation, the two were rolling around on the ground. no. we have those witnesses as well. the larger part of what this has become is a national conversation. bottom line is national conversation are not about having a conversation. often political litmus tests and tools to get things done by politicians and political activists and often devoid of facts. bill: wouldn t you say mary katharine that right now and as far as the public is concerned, we just don t know enough to convict anybody on television? you know, we have to be very, very careful. this is the thing. we saw this in the duke lacrosse case. we saw this? the case where the cop came out and turned out to be a totally different person. bill: being already convicted there. in cnn i m not sure where they are.
statements made. on that subject, juan, what do you think of the black panthers going hey, this is what i mean, once you get into this realm, that means zimmerman can t go outside of the house because these guys are threatening him. they re athletic him and people might be sympathetic to his point of view. so zimmerman s life is in danger. this is totally this black panther, this is totally a distraction. those people are despicable. they are race baiters. that, to me is lowsome. and it does not help. mary katharine said there are people looking to advance some kind of political agenda out of this. you talking talk about people who wouldn t make the news for any reason it would be those guys. my point to you about the arrest situation was this, bill. this kid had no weapon, zimmerman had a weapon. if zimmerman was the one pursuing the kid, he provoked the confrontation. bill: it depends, juan. having a broken nose. you are oversimplifying. i m not here to be his defense