. north korea says it didn t do the sony attack, but the next attack will be even worse. how will they know if they didn t do the first hack? president obama says our attack will be proportionally. let s bring if a cyber security czar and former chief strategist at eby and chief security officer at microsoft, now partner at ridge, schmidt, cyber, llc. thank you for joining us again, sir. appreciate it. my pleasure, chris. the president says this is not an act of cyber warfare. we will put them in quotes. but cyber vandalism. is that a political hedge to being off oagency po se doesn t have to be treated as seriously as it is? no, i think quite honestly,
it puts it in a framework, where, you know, it s not in every war on terrorism. people use that term freely all the time when we talk about these sort of attacks, whether it s a home depo or target or this event as large as it is, so similar to cyber vandalism and cyber tage. if a cyber terrorism stole a bunch of stuff and left, wouldn t we be saying it s a terrorist attack. then we say, oh, it s vandalism? i wouldn t say vandalism. in this case it s a criminal, a theft and everything else, when you look at the cyber crime laws. that s one of the reasons the fbi has a great lead on this, when you break it down step by step by step, this is a crime. everything that s taken place is a crime. it may elevate to particularly
cesspool of terrorism. even while denying responsibility for the sony hacking, north korea now promises escalation, saying the hackers are quote sharpening bayonets to do damage thousands of times greater. do you think this was an act of war by north korea? i don t think it was an act of war. i think it was an act of cyber vandalism that was very costly, very expensive. we take it seriously. reporter: not a cyber war or terror but vandalism that launched the president s critics here at home. there is a manifestation of a new form of warfare. when you destroy economies. when you are able to impose censorship on the world and especially the united states of america, it s more than vandalism and we need to react and react vigorously. reporter: what america can do and when is a question. possibly sanctions against the