medium level but having a lot of touch points? i think you just answered it. the more touch points he has with senior members of the campaign, the more that mueller will be able to work sort of through papadopoulos s story and talk to other people and learn what they knew. and then more importantly compare the stories to what papadopoulos said and their fellow campaign members. hope hicks here, natasha, getting the outreach, right. and some are saying if the outreach came to hope hicks, that maybe the well isn t as deep as some had thought. right. because if the well was deeper in terms of the touch points with russia, this would have happened way way before and it wouldn t be hope hicks being reached out later on in the time span here. right. so many former intelligence officials and national security experts i ve spoken to have pushed back hard against this idea. that just because the russians were trying to cultivate a new source, new asset such as hope