ramaswamy. and mike pence. well mike, why don t you say, this join me and making a commitment. that on day, one you wouldn t pardon donald. trump and the only candidate on the stage. who encouraged him to say it. here s how we move our nation forward. by turning the page forward. that s exactly what i don t want to be convicted of these crimes. you can t be able to make a commitment, the same justice that was i was a politician that for. i ve actually given pardons, and he usually follows a finding of guilt and contrition by the individual that s been conflicted. so the president the united states would give consideration pardon request. i mean charlie that was just a weird conversation but that is the problem right. where they re stuck in that discussion. yes and what s even more bizarre is that ramaswamy supposedly is running for president of the united states and you think he d actually want to get in the, race take down the guy in the, lead and