Office of president of United States and will preserve, protect and defense the constitution of the u. S. Except where nobody gets killed or robbed. His point is basically that a crime is a crime is a crime, correct . Exactly. I think you see through georges tweet a commonality, again, between he and i. Even though we come from very different sides of the aisle, but a common belief, a core belief in the rule of law in america. And thats a belief that Rudy Giuliani himself shared as a prosecutor. I dont think he was only putting murderers behind bars. There are whole Statute Books being enforced every day. And it would turn our nation upside down to adopt giulianis new position. Thank you very much. I now hand it over to chris cuomo. Thank you, i am chris cuomo. Welcome to primetime. We have new information tonight. The Special Counsel wants more answers from the president of the United States, and he wants them in person. The president s legal team said it was open to more questioning,
given his extraordinary military career and understanding of the law. i want you to stay with me, ken, because i have to bring in my expert panel today elliott williams, former assistant deputy attorney general at the justice department and also a former federal prosecutors and my friend kim whaley, professor at the university of baltimore school of law. elliott, you first. after mueller recommended little to know jailtime for flynn, help me understand. why would flynn, then, come out and question the fbi interview? i think it was a desire to get the name struck in mccabe into the public record. why? why would flynn are motivated to do that? might be speaking to the president of the united states and supporters of the president of the united states who regard this entire enterprise as a witch-hunt and craziness, so on
they want to scare everybody into making up stories that are not true by catching them in the smallest of misstatements. don t you take his device and snap it in front of him and say, didn t you just hear that mueller wants to talk to you, man? don t you understand what s happening here? stop antagonizing the man with all the power! i want to say i agree 100% with asha on, why would flynn make that argument? because he wanted more leniency. right, but he already had leniency. he already had a deal. he is poking the bear. that didn t make a whole lot of sense to me. but also, in that memo they typically don t comment on credibility in those types of memos, and they did here. likely because the issue was raised. but i think that s important, and i find it more important on the issue of what are we going to see down the road and what is mueller looking at. down the road, he s going to see the president state of mind, as you guys both know, jim, i want to talk to you about why yo
analyst bill we also have with us. thank you for being here. i appreciate it. wanted to touch on something the president said when he was talking about the fact and he was asked if they were concerned about what might happen with special counsel mueller and flynn and he said no i m not at all worried. there was no collusion. if there is nothing for the white house to fear, april ryan, why would flynn enter into and we do know it was a plea agreement, with the special counsel. what does he have to contribute? right. well, let s take a couple steps back. remember, a few weeks ago, sarah huckabee sanders said that they had heard that the mueller investigation was coming to an end. that is truly not the case. it looks like. and she back pedalled that day. saying we are hopeful. so their hopes have been dashed. when i talked to a republican source who is very familiar with the legalities of cases like
potentially affect the president because whatever flynn did, he did on his own. going back to what jim was just saying, this timeline, is really, really important to key in on because people don t do these things on their own. would flynn as an acting, you know, national security adviser be contacting these officials on his own or would it have been something that he had talked to others in the white house about? potentially including the president of the united states. i mean, we don t know. what we do know is that these small conversations, right? these weren t small things. what we do know is that sally yates over at justice was looking at intercepts of these conversations and she found them so troubling that she personally rushed over to the white house and met with the white house counsel, don mcgahn, and said,