with her lawyers, she insisted that she had not lied about matters material to the investigations into russia s interference in the presidential election and its possible links to trump associates. so she said, yeah, working for trump has required me to lie. i have lied about some stuff. but after extended consultation with her lawyer, she is ultimately able to say she hasn t been lying specifically were the investigation. that was yesterday. today hope hicks quit as well. so deputy communications director quit yesterday. communications director quit today. there are a few things about this that may end up being very important. part of this is personal for the president. hope hicks is the longest stand standing and closest staffer to the president, at least the one who is not related to him by blood or marriage. she s closer to him than anybody else other than his kids. she and josh raffel both started off work at a new york p.r. firm where she was doing public
alongside corey lewandowski who bruised michelle field. to work at the gop today you have to go out and defend roy moore. to be a lawyer for donald trump at the trump organization, you had to say that allegations of rape made by his first wife were not real, and they should not be believed. as a lawyer even in late october, november, working for trump you had to coordinate hush money to be paid to a woman who had sex on camera for money, to prevent her story from coming out about what he did with donald trump. this is a pattern. it comes from the top. it s not a of staing issue. it s a leadership issue. that leads us to hope hicks, jen. look, we don t know what the status of her relationship is with rob porter. we did have confirmation that they were romantically involved. his ex-wife, jennifer willoug y
fantastic job of just walking the line so she doesn t get him publicly angry, but going far enough that she s preserving her own reputation and trying to set herself apart from the white house in places where she doesn t agree. if you parse her words very carefully, she didn t come out and say, you know, i believe these women. i believe trump s accusers, but she said women should be heard. basically, that they should be vetted and they should feel good about coming forward. so if you have women around the country who are watching that, they could look at that and say, okay, she s working for trump, but maybe she s on my side and yet she didn t go far enough to end up with a rebuke from trump because we all believe that she is going to run for president at some point. that s absolutely clear. she s been, you know, considered for secretary of state in the past and her positioning has just been very smart all of the way through this administration. she is a woman to watch.
we didn t know that was happening at the time. donald trump actually denied it. the other interesting thing about the whole exchange in the e-mails is the character felix satter. he s one of the most mysterious and fascinating characters in the whole trump-russia saga. he got into trouble back in the 90s, in a bar fight and served jail time after allegedly stabbing a man with a margarita glass. yeah, broken margarita glass. he s on the far right for the viewers. fast forward to 2008, he s implicated in a stock swindle, a mafia connected stock swindle. but makes a deal with the fbi. and spends years cooperating to the point where the justice department later said he was very helpful in a national security sense. we still don t know the extent of his cooperation and what he did. but he s also working for donald trump. he has a business card that says he s working for trump. but in a deposition trump said i wouldn t know this guy if he walked into a room. so we have him saying satter
sense in the new order. and to answer that question, which is a good question, anderson, about whether he sticks around, you know, trump advisers have a history of even after they leave the official capacity, official working relationship of remaining loyal, working for trump, speaking on his behalf, going to bat for him. sometimes stirring the pot. think of people like sam nunberg and roger stone angkorry lewandowski. corey lewandowski. corey lewandowski and even scaramucci. remember, this guy, he was in a very strange position where he sold a pretty expensive company and then was denied the job. so he was really left out to hang for a while. and yet, was at least loy to trump through that whole period. you know? so it s funny an these former trump advisers tend 0 stick around and look for that second shot at serving trump. ryan, stay with us. want to bring gloria borger,