sure that they can completely keith ellison came out today and said the complicating factor here is based on the jargon that it s not always clear to some of the elected officials what they re even being told. i mean, i think it s one thing to say that we have to take seriously the national security of the country. that s a really important principle. and i think we certainly can talk about whether snowden and whether we should have contractors who are actually private contractors. seriously i would have taken the oath very seriously. it s wrong to say, the government oversight, secret court. it s one of the reasons why the aclu filed a lawsuit today. there s some form of slippery slope we should be concerned about here. your point, chris, about the trust factor is actually one we should take seriously. conservative republicans are concerned here s the distinction i want to make. bill, you made the point, used this word design. that to me is where this comes down to. the question