careful about when journalists you talk to, what you say. i can t imagine that general milley didn t know that. i have to think he has a lot of regrets right now. martha: one of the lines in the woodward book, quoting from milley, if we atalk, i ll call you ahead of time. he claims that conversation was above board and the kind of conversation he he s a all the time. i think he tried to explain what that was. i have the bigger concern is the process. normally if i had a conversation and the chinese came to me and said we re concerned about this, is this going to happen, i would have that conversation with them and send a read-out or pick up the phone and call everyone else that is affected by that and send it to the national security agency and make sure that everybody got the read-out. he said that he spoke with whether it was secretary pompeo or mark meadows, his counter parts about that call and what took place. so i think he answered the
general and analyst barry mccaffrey. welcome to the three of you. courtney, let s start with that call to the chinese, because general milley said not because of his fears about the attack, but the fears that he thought they might. this pushed back against what were some of the more alarmist interpretations of the book peril. right, and this is what we ve been hearing from defense officials since the first excerpts of that book came out. general milley, this call was coordinated with the interagency, that there were other people involved in the call who were awar of , that there was a script involve and it was something planned or weeks. the ting of it, the chinese, actually, are the ones that came guard with seval dates to choose from. general milley chose tm before the january 6 insurrection. so many othe things that people tookut of the scenario laid out in the bob wdward and robert cta book, so many of
the things laid out in there neral milley really pushed back on. i think the biggest thing we heard himefense himself against was the idea he was doing thi outside his existing authorities. this i something that he made it very clear was something tha as the chairman the joint chiefs, it s within his role to condt these phone calls with his counterparts. he didn t speak as much about this nuclear process meeting that s also laid out in the woodward book, but he did also fend his role in that and explained that, in fact, he called members of h staff together. they were going through the process. it was in no way him trying to usurp his authority or to ciumvent authority in the civilianontrol of the military. again, this is exactly what we ve bee hearing from defense f ofcials,nd whas newere toda is t hea it direcy from genalilley himsel a general mccaffrey, on ghanistan, general milley repeatedly nott s the
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you have their back. the special ops guys i met with friday in my office in nashville that are taking their time, their money and risking their lives to do a job that the three of you could not do, maybe we re going to remember you three as the three that broke the military. i don t know. but this is causing just a lot of anger from people who have trusted the military. they have felt like the military was one of the most trustworthy institutions. but in order to get a name in a book, in order to not be drawn in to a political fight, what you have managed to do is to politicize the u.s. military to downgrade our reputation with