what poll is that? [laughter] any president has to do that, that s a problem when you re president, you want to get your stuff pushed through, you want to be popular, something you have to do. he s not a fool, he ll figure that out. he s going to waste a lot of time and a breath and energy arguing over who has the bigger crowd. don t you think they re going to create fake twitter accounts to follow them like my sister-in-law follows me and think i don t know it s her with the egg? i know it s you. where s my camera, i know it s you. just stop. tom: your alma mater soon won t matter. so it claims a yale computer scientist who believes 90% of colleges will soon be gone. he s considered potential national science advisor says that american colleges are failing and a major reason is
overseas, that s okay because she sorry. it s not good enough. our president is sending a signal to the rest of the world that leaks are appropriate as long as you said you are a folk hero and you re an antiwar activist and you are whatever else. the hypocrisy. honestly, the hypocrisy in all of it and what it is tending to our intelligence communities and the men and women who fight so hard for our national security is as long as you re a traitor and you have the right kind of politics it won t matter. in fact, ash carter, defense secretary, poses its prey it is blatant hypocrisy from the left because of the ones driving this anti-wikileaks, anti-russian narrative. alternatively it s perfectly okay for this individual to put out 750,000 documents, details of american operations, identit. the new york times noted in an article that they write about this the fact that foreign allies in various countries were helping united states, they had to remove them and put them in safety beca
confidence in him in the american people. to john meacham s point, it s all about performance, and if he does perform, then this won t matter. well, i m not sure i i a gree with that. i think the american people expect standards of integrity from our elected officials, and that statement that i don t have a conflict of interest situation because i m president, that s just not true. there s one criminal conflict of interest statute that does not ally apply to him. can he not be prosecuted criminally for his financial conflicts of interest. it is up to the voters if he runs for reelection, if he has conflicts of interests, it is up to the house of representatives to investigate conflicts of interests, on the president and other officials, and if
he said he avoided. who knows what other conflicts he s been approached with, what other deals people are coming to him with, no way of knowing what is going to happen. still not released tax returns. found it to be interesting tactic, doesn t put a lot of confidence in the american people. to jon meacham s point its all about performance. if he does perform this won t matter. well i m not sure i agree with that. i think the american people expect standards of integrity from our elected officials. and that statement that i don t have a conflict of interest situation because i m president, that s just not true. there s one criminal conflict of interest statute that does not apply to him. he can t be prosecuted criminally for financial conflicts of interest.
reporter: so that s the crazy part. somebody could win here with 35% of the vote. talking to the clinton people this morning, they said e we could come in first, we could come in third, if even will vote for the independent that really is the wild card. traditionally, we have seen people move away because they are afraid their independent vote won t matter. for a lot of mormons, they believe this is a vote of conscience. chris jansing for us in utah, thank you. chris mentioned the undependent conservative candidate running strongly there in the mountain west. imagine this. mcmullin wins utah. that would kick the election into the house of representatives where republicans are expected to maintain control. then uncomfortable with donald trump, those gop lawmakers side with mcmullin putting him into