parts to put a floor under the relationship. to manage the competition responsibly. to ensure that competition does not become conflict. and there are a number of dish elements to that. but one of the key ones is that as we have intense competition, we have also intense diplomacy. so i sat down with wong yi and talked through all of the relationships and we will see american officials engaging with their chinese counterparts to continue that work. and then at some point we ll see president biden and president xi come back together again. so as far as i m concerned there is nothing inconsistent with competing vigorously in important domainsond economics and technology and ensuring that that competition does not veer into conflict or confrontation. that is the firm conviction of president biden and that is how he will responsibly manage this relationship and we believe there is nothing inevitable about some kind of conflict or
independence. we support an effort to ensure that there are not unilateral changes to the status quo. by taiwan or by the prc. and i was equally clear with wong yi that some of the actions china has been taken, in terms of the aggressive posture toward taiwan are themselves challenging that status quo in ways that undermine peace and stability. what we re looking for is the continuation of that basic stable cross strait dynamic that as allowed both the prc and taiwan and the people of those two territories to do well and for the rest of the world not have to deal with a conflict that would end up cratering the global economy. jake sullivan, always a pleasure to have you on. thanks for having me. and we will be back. but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you.
something that could turn into a very serious conflict. do you agree? i sat in the room with president biden when he met with president xi in bali last year and that was not my experience. i saw two leaders who are actually trying to reach understanding even if we have different points of view and even if we are in a deeply competitive relationship on some of the fundamentals in this dynamic and the desire on both parts to put a floor under the relationship, to manage the competition responsibly, to ensure that competition does not become conflict. and there are a number of dish elements to that. but one of the key ones is that as we have intense competition, we have also intense diplomacy. so i sat down for two days with wong yi and talked through all of the relationships and we will see american officials engaging
play a role in this. they have a top envoy visiting both russia and ukraine among other countries right now. what s your analysis of what beijing is trying to do here? is this a good faith effort or no? last week there was a meeting in vienna before the national security advisor and the top chinese diplomat wong yi. last week apparently there was a different tone. the chinese are genuinely concerned this war could end up drawing us and them in a conflict that would have consequences for both the chinesedetail what the ukrainia have to say. i know the white house has spoken with the ukrainians to say, are you pleased that the chinese are coming? the answer is, yes, absolutely. we want to talk to the chinese about our demands, but the way
neil: all right, i ve often said on this show i don t know what mandarin is for huss pa, but the chinese have certainly illustrated that in your face response to the downing of hair spy balloon in the united staten in the united states. they call it violent and unnecessary, incomprehensibly hysterical. that s coming from china s top diplomat, the equivalent of our sec air secretary of state. wouldn t you know our secretary of state, antony blinken, both of these guys are in the same place at the same time, yards apart, i m told, at this munich conference. will they meet, should they meet? mike pompeo, former secretary of state, kind enough to join us. secretary, do you think the two of them should meet? neil, good morning, thanks for having me on. i spent a lot of time with wong yi and his colleague, the state