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Transcripts for MSNBC Craig Melvin Reports 20210916 15:26:00

much deeper, more resonant, human, flawed, you know, he s like an epic hero. his strengths are great, but his flaws are also great. and he recognized them and made efforts before the end of his life to try to atone for those. it s just a wonderful american story, and we should be proud that when he died, he died the most beloved person on his planet. and that s a pretty powerful thing. and i think anybody would want to know what the secret sauce is. i think we have not laid it out, but i think you can find it in there. you can see it in rashida s beautiful heart. you can see tin the photographs, you can hear it in the humor, in his resolute determination to serve others and not just himself. it s as powerful a story, craig, as i have ever tackled, and i m so happy and excited to present it on sunday to everybody else. considering the stories you have told, that s saying something. ken burns, i look forward to finishing the documentary. so far, it s fantastic.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111122:21:32:00

i know. hope springs eternal. that was going through my mind. we learn slowly. that s sad. and when we have fixed believes, you know, like iedology, people in congress do not learn all that you know, they don t train their mind. you can just watch it. there is a political conversation you don t really expect people to change their mind mid-conversation. what strikes me as part of this i think about as someone in politics, part of my job as a communicator is to tell a story about a candidate, about a rationale about an issue, what have you. part of the way we try to bring people to our side is to tell that story in a way where they can see themselves in that story. so in that way, does that mean we re manipulating the things that feel familiar to them rather than confronting them? well, i mean, that s the way that people talk to each other. there is very little difference between talking to somebody

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111122:21:51:00

what are the other types of jobs that folks that people are looking to hire for? mark? i wouldç say the oil fields are doing good up here. actually everybody is hiring. there s signs all over the place. and construction, grocery stores. there s just jobs all over the place here. it s like a modern day gold rush it sounds like, mr. mayor. it sounds like i ve just got to po buy a bus ticket and there s a job at the end of the line. what a wonderful american story, especially at this point in our country. absolutely. there s a lot of jobs available. but i think i like to sum it up as the ambassador of bismarck, you can still achieve the american dream here in bismarck. you can have a great job, you can have a job that increases your salary each year, you can live in a safe community, you can have a great school, a safe school, as mark was saying. our schools are safe here. and we ve got the quality of

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111122:21:29:00

surprises us, in the first place, we deny the surprise. people don t accept that they re surprised. and we tend to be to keep if we have an idea or an ie deology, we tend to stick to it. and people really do not move their opinions much. not only true for congress, it s true for all of us. you re saying people areç stubborn? yeah. i m saying they re not listening. they re interpreting the world. they have an interpretation, they stick to it. is this a self-preservation thing? what do you think is the origin of the human narrative and human story we all create, all of us, and the difficulty that we have in reconciling that narrative with whatever is happening outside of our heads. well, you know, having a narrative and having an interpretation, that s part of the way the mind works. it s not necessarily for preservation or anything else. the mind is set up to generate those stories. you present people with anything, they ll make the best story possible out of it.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111122:21:27:00

explain to us, for instance, how much does it matter? how matters. the way you do things is more determinative than the outcome itself. in other words, the way you manage risk, the way you relate to these things, walk us through the human what that gap is between the human mind and the actual ability to evaluate risk. well, in general, you know, the world in our minds is simpler than the world out there. we have a narrativeç that we he a story. we build a story what the world is like and we act accordingly. and we have much too much confidence in that story. so people end uptaking risks in many cases because they don t know the alternatives they re facing. susan, go ahead. when you talk about the fast and slow thinking, the methodical thinking versus gambling thinking if you will, does it separate when you think of someone like a scientist versus an artist?

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