aleppo. we know aleppo could fall at any moment. this desensitization to the suffering and the images that are coming out and i, as a journalist, do not know how to present the story any more. in a way that is going to make people care. because the most drastic of images are out there. children lying on a beach dead because they drowned. we have children shell shocked inside buildings. we have image upon image of suffering and devastation. what do we do as journalists at this point in history to make people care? and i don t know that it s desensitization, although i hear you, arwa it s the enormity of it. we turn away because it s so overwhelming. this is my theory because it s so overwhelming and we feel helpless. all is no solution we can be talking about. no leadership either. you need to have more leadership on an issue like syria. the reason syria is not more prominent in the lives of most
who won that? but we know that people watch the u.s. election like no other election around the world right now. what is the view of the united states right now? what is the view of the future? first of all, people are more interested in u.s. politics as the leader of the free world, the u.s. is always sort of the center of interest. particularly with this election i think it took on a whole new life. whether i was in aleppo with syrian rebels and whether i was in france or egypt or africa, everybody wanted to talk about this election. everybody wanted to talk about donald trump. because i think as we re all basically saying here that everyone understands there is a ground swell movement. there is a shift and the u.s. embodies that and epitomizes that. i think what frightens people internationally about donald trump, and make no mistake about it, they are frightened. especially when you talk to world leaders or people in politics, it s less about the ideas that he represents and
that sunni muslims have that they are being oppressed backed by the russians and iranians, but also by the west. as long as you have that strong sense that sunni muslims feel they are oppressed and they feel they are marginalized you ll continue to see this pattern repeating it itself over and over again. another thing to consider that the caliphate is moving into a virtual territory right now. there is a virtual caliphate. you have been watching these people go from syria to greece to france to belgium and terrific reporting on that. nick, if we can, i want to turn to aleppo because i was speaking about this the other day when you were there. al assad now seems like they are poised to retake aleppo and this could be just a major tipping point in these years long struggle there. it s hard to look back at the moment as the rebels being kicked in aleppo.
constitution. it s still an issue today. we ll see what congressman jason chaffetz does with your letter and your plea to him to investigate some of this stuff. congressman boyle, thank you so much for being on new day. thank you, alisyn. a grave humanitarian crisis is unfolding in syria. aleppo is turning into one giant graveyard. up next, we ll speak with cnn senior correspondent just terrific reporters who have been in the war-ravaged country. we ll talk to them about what they have seen and what we all need to know and do. r s disease is out there. and the alzheimer s association is going to make it happen. but we won t get there without you. visit alz.org to join the fight.
but we re seeing a moment where potentially tens of thousands of people could be losing their lives and it s hard to i think bring the global focus to it. and never again, never again, never again after rwanda. i think that aleppo promises to be the greatest stain on president obama s legacy. he has said himself that it keeps him up at night. he has many gray hairs because of it. and on our legacy, too. humanity. we said never again and yet we have allowed ourselves to lose our moral compass, globally. this is on all of us. those deaths that happened on aleppo and iraq because of isis. this rise of radicalism and isis are able to rise and thrive, that s on all of us. every person out there need to recognize that they have a role to play in this. it s not just happened but it is happening and will happen going forward. this is happening right before our very eyes. we just saw the pictures right there that have been taken from