afghanistan. because there should be someone who stands up for them. i know many afghan women who have left, many politicians, female politicians, they are mobilising from outside afghanistan to fight for their rights. as you heard, one of thejudges, she for their rights. as you heard, one of the judges, she said were not going to let our 20 years achievementjust go buy like that. so, they are mobilising. they are going to fight. but seeing them on the street gives some hope to women, two younger girls who were banned from school, who are going through a very dark moment of their life. clearly, you would be the first to say this is not about you but it is about the women. i know you must have known these women over the years. how difficult is this for you? it years. how difficult is this for ou? , , ., ., ., years. how difficult is this for ou? , , . you? it is very emotional. when i met them you? it is very emotional. when i met them in you? it is very emotional. when i met them i
law now if texas and illinois, and florida, and missouri, and arkansas, and indiana can just ignore women s rights issues. and i feel like that is what they got. melissa, that s how i. feel they are trying to get away with implementing very unpopular right-wing ideas that they believe in because of their own reading of the christian faith, and i want to do these things. but to do them through a normal case would be very bad headlines for the roberts court. so they are doing it in the sneaky way. it almost feels like bush versus gore. you ve had some thoughts on him. before he seems to have bought their plan and says, see? they did overturn row people are acting as the row has been overturned. i would welcome that outcome and it may eventually be, but it has not been overturned yet. at all. this is a procedural ruling
list of just 40 or not a hundred? how do you whit it wied when i down to say this person meets the threshold i want in the book? it s art and science. you come up with the icons from the civil rights movement like congressman john lewis, harry belafonte. but then there are younger people. to look at the spectrum of both across the generations, but then also people from very different walks of life as well as different political point of view. and i thought that was important because it really is not so much about the issues, but about the individual urge to get up and do something. you know, when i think about activists, i think of someone like billie jean king who has been around for decades. right. activists, you know, supporting women and women s rights issues. right. what was your relationship with her as you worked on this book? it was fabulous. i got to go and sit down with
is this what she needs? is this the entre she s been waiting for? i don t think it is effective for this reason. kirsten gillibrand has been out front in the senate for the last several years on women s rights issues. she took on the army when no one else did on sexual harrisment. she gets a lot of credit for that. in this race it is a very hard sell when you have three other prominent women also running to say she s going to be the only one as president fighting for women s equality. i think she needs to go broader. i think she hasn t gone broad enough. i think this sort of attacking for old positions probably is not going to be particularly useful for her. wes, let s talk about this state, great state of michigan, we re in the great city of detroit. this is a state where the economy has gotten better under president trump. unemployment dropped from 5.4 to 4.1, gdp increased 8% in the trump presidency.