getting together and saying, well, let s exit. so, people who are handling the prisoners are seeing people exiting. then they have an entirely separate mission, which is, you don t want those people evaporating. what you want, is immediate triage, is anyone hurt? was anyone injured? and then you want something altogether different. witness triage. okay, what did you see? what did you hear? nothing, nothing, okay. what did you, see what did you hear? we learn these lessons in places like san bernardino, one of those people said, i saw the gunman, i think i know who it is. and that was the clue that actually put them on to the suspect. that has become something that they are in point he ll. let me reset for the viewers who are joining us right now. there is an active shooter situation at michigan state university. one person has been killed. we don t know if that person is