intelligence, everybody knows that we have to reform this function, there s got to be some changes made in the intelligence function. we are bringing in here a very experienced person with a deep background in national security. he was nearly the secretary of defense during the george w. bush administration, but secretary rumsfeld was, obviously, selected for that position. he s highly respected and highly regarded. and given his years of experience, i think he s being brought in there no one told me this, i m just surmising it to really reform that whole dni operation because most of us who look at it know it s badly in need of it. arthel: okay. as you know under president george w. bush, senator coats served as the u.s. ambassador to germany. general jack keane, it s always a pleasure to speak with you, sir, and we will leave it there. thank you. good talking to you, arthel. eric: coming up later tonight on justice with jeanine pirro